Proposal: Let's drop i386

Bryan Quigley bryan.quigley at
Wed May 9 20:07:23 UTC 2018


Less and less non-amd64-compatible i386 hardware is available for consumers
to buy today from anything but computer part recycling centers. The last of
these machines were manufactured over a decade ago, and support from
an increasing
number of upstream projects has ended.

Ubuntu and flavors just completed the 18.04 release cycle. This released
version will either be supported until 2021 or 2023, depending on the
product, team, and willingness to support it. At that point in time, the
majority of these machines are approaching two decades old.

>>Previous 2016 thread: And in 2018, the question will come if we can
effectively provide security support on i386.
We can't.  Machines running i386 Ubuntu which are capable of running amd64
Ubuntu are vulnerable to the critical Meltdown vulnerability where they
wouldn't be if they were running amd64. (Some actual i386 hardware simply
isn't vulnerable, but some is).

We still have a relatively high number if i386 downloads but that doesn't
mean users machines are not capable of amd64. For the flavors remaining
today on i386 here are some i386 to amd64 ratios for 18.04:

Lubuntu cdimage - 0.87
Lubuntu tracker - 0.64
Lubuntu error (pcmanfm) - 0.11
Xubuntu cdimage - 0.49
Xubuntu tracker -  0.30
Xubuntu error (thunar) - 0.10
Kylin tracker - 0.30
Kylin error (engrampa) - 0.10
Kubuntu cdimage - 0.14
Kubuntu tracker - 0.12
Kubuntu error (kinit) - 0.07

The data retrieved from cdimage is for a limited time period on May 7th. All
cdimage statistics included many hundreds to thousands of downloads (except
Ubuntu Kylin due to it using it's own CDN, so not being included here). The
torrent tracker results are available here:
The error tracker statistics come from comparing top bugs shared between
i386 and amd64 over last week. Bugs that affect multiple flavors are not
It's not fully understood why there is a large discrepancy between the
error tracker and other sources - but it's possible apport doesn't work as
well in low memory.

With Ubuntu MATE, Ubuntu Budgie, and Ubuntu Studio joining Ubuntu Desktop
and Server in not offering i386 support in order to focus their efforts,
and these statistics in mind, we (flavors) should all join them. Now is the
ideal time to do so, because it's before the Cosmic cycle is really under
way, and if support were continued for i386, we don't want users to meet a
dead end with respect to upgrade paths, and would support it until 20.04
(which means either five or seven more years of i386). Users still have the
support cycle of 18.04 to use their machines and get full support, so these
machines will still be able to function. But with no new machines being
manufactured, we have to deprecate support at some point.

The first step would be to all agree on dropping images/installers but we
should keep the end goal of dropping the port in mind ideally soon as well.

On the list of known blockers for removing the i386 port are Steam and
Wine. Solus' snapped Steam is progressing nicely and Steam deb is difficult
to maintain as is [See removal bug]. That leaves coming up with a good way
forward for Wine.

Simon Quigley
Bryan Quigley

[2016 email thread]  (was
Installation Media and supportability of i386 in 18.04 LTS Re: Ubuntu
Desktop on i386)
[removal bug]
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