Should Ubuntu systemd journal logs be persistent by default?

David Britton david.britton at
Mon Nov 13 19:18:20 UTC 2017

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 03:50:20PM +0000, Robie Basak wrote:
> So what exactly is only going to the systemd journal now (and thus not
> being persisted) that was being saved somewhere persistently before?

Hi Robie --

I think the closest corollary to "what has regressed" that you asked,
is /var/log/upstart from trusty -> xenial.  These files often contained
early error messages from service startup that did not yet get to the
point of logging to syslog.

Similar messages show up in the journal.

David Britton <david.britton at>

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