Let's Discuss Interim Releases (and a Rolling Release)

Scott Ritchie scott at open-vote.org
Tue Mar 5 10:10:55 UTC 2013


On 3/4/13 12:46 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 12:42:30PM -0800, Scott Ritchie wrote:
>> On 3/3/13 4:54 PM, Colin Watson wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 02, 2013 at 11:36:45AM +0100, Nicolas Delvaux wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2013-03-02 at 09:32 +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
>>>>> I'm surprised, because when I hunt around for people talking about
>>>>> their experiences running raring I've generally found them favourably
>>>>> contrasting its stability with that of prior development releases.
>>>>> Indeed I hear that one group (the French loco, was it?) started
>>>>> referring to it as "boring", which IMO is an excellent result. :-)
>
>>>> For example, in the last few hours, French testers have complained about
>>>> packages such as Skype or Wine that were removed by a dist-upgrade.
>
>>> I would be happy to debug such things given the output of 'apt-get -o
>>> Debug::pkgProblemResolver=true dist-upgrade'.  (The last such example I
>>> saw turned out to be due to raring-proposed being erroneously enabled,
>>> and disabling it fixed the problem.)
>
>> Likely one of:
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/winetricks/+bug/1123710
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gettext/+bug/954029
>
>> In this case I suspect I need to SRU the fix to 12.10 because apt
>> will in some cases look at the recommends of the currently installed
>> package rather than the to-be-upgraded-to package when doing
>> resolution.
>
> apt should never do that, and that would be a major bug that we should fix.
> Do you have a bug reference for this behavior in apt (preferably with a
> reproducer case)?
>
>
>

This reminded me of this older bug from Karmic-Lucid era, which I'm not 
sure ever got fixed since we just worked around it in update-manager:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/571999

In this case apt is looking at a stale cache package rather than the 
to-be-installed package.




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