Removing gnome-nettool from the default Desktop image?

Jeremy Bicha jbicha at
Mon Jun 11 02:12:20 UTC 2012

On 8 June 2012 17:51, Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre < at> wrote:
> I'm not necessarily against dropping it from the CD and leaving it in
> universe for installation by those who need it; but could you expose
> the reasons why we feel it's no longer necessary on the desktop image?
> Is it lacking in maintenance, taking up too much space, buggy?
> I'd be tempted to say that the "space" considerations are likely to be
> minimal (I haven't looked though); but I can understand it being a
> time sink if it's not actively maintained upstream. However, I know
> some people use it judging from bug reports we receive, and due to its
> small size I don't think it's such a large burden.

> The intent of the live image is to showcase what Ubuntu can do; I
> think gnome-nettool gives us an additional benefit in the fact that
> it's useful, for users that don't always know the command-line
> equivalents, for debugging purposes with network issues.

Right, gnome-nettool itself doesn't take up much space. And I don't
particularly think that is a maintenance burden since it will still be
available for install for those who want it.

My desire to remove it is because every additional GUI app we include
by default adds a bit of extra clutter. I think gnome-netool has a
poor user interface for the modern GNOME3 world and is completely
undocumented. It is of no use to basic computer users or advanced
computer users.

I think cheese or pitivi for instance would make a better, more useful
showcase app than gnome-nettool.


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