systemd for 11.10 ?

Phillip Susi psusi at
Tue May 10 14:43:39 UTC 2011

On 5/10/2011 6:55 AM, Martin Pitt wrote:
> I don't think we can, given that upstart and systemd have opposite
> approaches to when to start services ("as soon as you can" vs. "not
> until you need them"). So even a very coarse approximation like

I don't think this is correct.  If I understood the introduction 
correctly, you have the choice of either "as soon as you can" or "not 
until you need them".  systemd creates the socket either way, and then 
is either configured to start the daemon in parallel with daemons that 
depend on it, or only start the daemon when something actually connects 
to the socket.  Which is up to you when you write the config.

If you choose the delayed start option, then yes, a test that checks 
what processes are running would fail, but a test that checks for the 
actual availability of the service would not.

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