lsb printing support [Was, Re: Qt3 and LSB compliance]

[Till Kamppeter]

On 03/02/2011 09:35 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:31:15PM +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
>
>>> Nothing in main depends on the lsb package except for kubuntu-full, and
>>> nothing installs it by default.  Are you saying that you intended to *add* a
>>> new dependency on lsb in natty?  (If so, that would appear to require a
>>> feature freeze exception at this point, for whatever this new feature is?)
>
>>> Bear in mind that 'lsb' is the package providing the full LSB system.  If
>>> you only need the LSB printing subsystem, there's an 'lsb-printing' package
>>> for that.  But regardless, I don't see anything here that requires keeping
>>> the packages in main given that they're not installed by default anyway.
>
>> I do not introduce a new feature, as "lsb" was in main before
>> feature freeze.
>
> Nothing in main (except for kubuntu-full) depends on lsb; ergo nothing in
> main *uses* lsb; ergo anything that would start to use lsb now would be a
> new feature that doesn't currently exist, and is subject to the feature
> freeze.
>
>> Moving 'lsb' from main to Universe would require a Feature Freeze
>> Exception.
>
> No, that's not how it works.
>
>> Automatic printer driver downloads are a feature which we already agreed
>> on during the last UDSes and pitti has just completed the Jockey part of
>> it.
>
> Agreeing to features in UDS is not a guarantee of these features landing in
> a given Ubuntu release.  They may fail to be included for various reasons,
> including: the developers may decide that the feature is technically
> incorrect; there may not be sufficient resources to implement the feature;
> or the feature may not be implemented on schedule, with a decision taken
> that landing the feature after feature freeze is too risky.
>
> On the other hand, since Martin is most definitely familiar with all of
> this, and you say he's implementing the jockey side of things, it's likely
> that he's already thought about all of this and has a FFe request planned
> (if needed).
>
>> As manufacturers are told that they have to make LSB packages (so
>> that one package fits all distros), the full LSB needs to stay in main.
>> Manufacturers have for example the liberty to ship a GUI tool with the
>> driver.  Therefore we need to keep the LSB.
>
> That's a complete non sequitur.  Jockey supports installing lots of things
> that aren't part of main... in fact, that's its primary use case.
>
>

Problem is already solved. pitti told me that Universe is activated in 
default installations and so the printer drivers do not have any 
problems to pull the "lsb" package.

    Till