ari-tczew to be excluded from Ubuntu community

Scott Kitterman ubuntu at
Fri Apr 8 13:02:18 UTC 2011

On Friday, April 08, 2011 07:03:47 AM Daniel Holbach wrote:
> Am 08.04.2011 12:46, schrieb Stephan Adig:
> > Was this a private meeting? When it wasn't, could you point to the
> > irclogs?
> It was a rather long email exchange between the CC and the DMB.
> In addition to that there were a number of CC and DMB who spent hours
> talking to various people who were involved in the incidents trying to
> calm the waters, understand and look for solutions for weeks.
> Again: I don't feel it's very helpful to discuss "evidence", "claims"
> and merits and mistakes of specific people in a place as visible and
> public as this mailing list. Not because I'm against transparency, but
> because of the damaging effects this has on reputation outside Ubuntu
> realms, etc (note that I never used any full name here).
> I realise that some of you might be surprised by this announcement,
> especially if you just noticed ari-tczew as somebody who worked hard on
> making Ubuntu better. He himself and others who were involved in long,
> sometimes heated discussions should be aware of what happened.

I understand the rationale for keeping the matter private.  OTOH, I'm not at 
all comfortable with secret trials and expulsions.  I don't think it's healthy 
for the project and I think it's not very Ubuntu.

I believe that the body of evidence that formed the basis for this decision 
should be made available on request to Ubuntu Members that are interested.  
This would increase transparency within the project without causing any affect 
on the individual's reputation outside Ubuntu.

We place a great deal of trust, responsibility, and power in the hands of the 
DMB and CC and I think that being transparent on this issue within the 
membership of the project is an important balance in this type of case.

Scott K

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