manual tomcat install versus apt

[Jason Wee]

I am using tomcat installed via apt. Running Xubuntu 9.10. There are a few
manual workaround to get it done before it work but it is pretty simple. For
now I have the webapps deply.

On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Thufir <hawat.thufir at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thierry Carrez <thierry.carrez <at> ubuntu.com> writes:
> [...]
> > >> [1] http://www.howtogeek.com/
> > >> howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu/
> > >
> > > Yes, this is the how-to I followed.  However, let's ask:
> > > why is there
> > > even such a how-to?  why wouldn't it just advise to use apt-get?
> >
> > As I said, this howto was written before the Tomcat 6 packages
> > were even available.
> > So the "manual install" was the only method there was. This
> > is the main reason why these howtos exist. It doesn't advise to
> > install from the repository because it was never updated.
>
> Actually, it states:
>
> "If you are running Ubuntu and want to use the Tomcat
> servlet container, you should not use the version from
> the repositories as it just doesn’t work correctly."
>
> which is a sentiment echoed on other posts on this topic by other parties,
> and from persons who have written to me requesting help with tomcat
> problems on Ubuntu.
>
> >
> > > Which brings us back to:  what is it that's odd about the apt-get
> > > install?  why doesn't it just do the bog standard manual install, but
> > > scripted?
> >
> > Ubuntu packages are rebuilt from the sources, they can't just download
> > upstream binaries and unpack them. We also provide more system
> > integration (for example we don't run Tomcat as root, which is what your
> > howto does). Furthermore, Ubuntu packages try to stick as much as they
> > can to FHS guidelines. Unpacking everything in a single directory is not
> > the way we install applications. We try to put configuration in /etc,
> > logs in /var/log, etc. That makes the resulting package more
> > Ubuntu-integrated, but, I agree, a little more confusing for long-time
> > Tomcat users.
> >
>
> If it's just a matter of documentation, no big deal, and glad to hear about
> following FHS guidelines.  However, since Tomcat users have difficulty in
> locating directories, is information on where to find these directories
> centrally located?
>
>
> At the very least, there's a "marketing" problem in that multiple sources
> advise *not* using the repository, which rather defeats the purpose of the
> repository.
>
> I'm not currently running Tomcat, but my concern was re-ignited by another
> user asking for support.  When I asked for support on the Ubuntu mailing
> list, the consensus I saw was that the problem rests with the repository:
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/
> ubuntu-users-archive/msg/ddd5236bfb7fc0d8<http://groups.google.ca/group/%0Aubuntu-users-archive/msg/ddd5236bfb7fc0d8>
>
> http://groups.google.ca/group/
> ubuntu-users-archive/msg/f0646c6434ea2529<http://groups.google.ca/group/%0Aubuntu-users-archive/msg/f0646c6434ea2529>
>
> Again, not currently running Tomcat, this isn't of immediate concern
> for myself. That being said, it's a problem which, to my knowledge,
> hasn't been fixed.
>
> -Thufir
>
>
>
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