I am using tomcat installed via apt. Running Xubuntu 9.10. There are a few manual workaround to get it done before it work but it is pretty simple. For now I have the webapps deply.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 10:55 PM, Thufir <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hawat.thufir@gmail.com">hawat.thufir@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Thierry Carrez <thierry.carrez <at> <a href="http://ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu.com</a>> writes:<br>
[...]<br>
> >> [1] <a href="http://www.howtogeek.com/" target="_blank">http://www.howtogeek.com/</a><br>
> >> howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu/<br>
> ><br>
> > Yes, this is the how-to I followed. However, let's ask:<br>
> > why is there<br>
> > even such a how-to? why wouldn't it just advise to use apt-get?<br>
><br>
> As I said, this howto was written before the Tomcat 6 packages<br>
> were even available.<br>
> So the "manual install" was the only method there was. This<br>
> is the main reason why these howtos exist. It doesn't advise to<br>
> install from the repository because it was never updated.<br>
<br>
Actually, it states:<br>
<br>
"If you are running Ubuntu and want to use the Tomcat<br>
servlet container, you should not use the version from<br>
the repositories as it just doesn’t work correctly."<br>
<br>
which is a sentiment echoed on other posts on this topic by other parties,<br>
and from persons who have written to me requesting help with tomcat<br>
problems on Ubuntu.<br>
<br>
><br>
> > Which brings us back to: what is it that's odd about the apt-get<br>
> > install? why doesn't it just do the bog standard manual install, but<br>
> > scripted?<br>
><br>
> Ubuntu packages are rebuilt from the sources, they can't just download<br>
> upstream binaries and unpack them. We also provide more system<br>
> integration (for example we don't run Tomcat as root, which is what your<br>
> howto does). Furthermore, Ubuntu packages try to stick as much as they<br>
> can to FHS guidelines. Unpacking everything in a single directory is not<br>
> the way we install applications. We try to put configuration in /etc,<br>
> logs in /var/log, etc. That makes the resulting package more<br>
> Ubuntu-integrated, but, I agree, a little more confusing for long-time<br>
> Tomcat users.<br>
><br>
<br>
If it's just a matter of documentation, no big deal, and glad to hear about<br>
following FHS guidelines. However, since Tomcat users have difficulty in<br>
locating directories, is information on where to find these directories<br>
centrally located?<br>
<br>
<br>
At the very least, there's a "marketing" problem in that multiple sources<br>
advise *not* using the repository, which rather defeats the purpose of the<br>
repository.<br>
<br>
I'm not currently running Tomcat, but my concern was re-ignited by another<br>
user asking for support. When I asked for support on the Ubuntu mailing<br>
list, the consensus I saw was that the problem rests with the repository:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://groups.google.ca/group/%0Aubuntu-users-archive/msg/ddd5236bfb7fc0d8" target="_blank">http://groups.google.ca/group/<br>
ubuntu-users-archive/msg/ddd5236bfb7fc0d8</a><br>
<br>
<a href="http://groups.google.ca/group/%0Aubuntu-users-archive/msg/f0646c6434ea2529" target="_blank">http://groups.google.ca/group/<br>
ubuntu-users-archive/msg/f0646c6434ea2529</a><br>
<br>
Again, not currently running Tomcat, this isn't of immediate concern<br>
for myself. That being said, it's a problem which, to my knowledge,<br>
hasn't been fixed.<br>
<br>
-Thufir<br>
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