Notifications: uselessness of

[John Vivirito]

On 03/03/2009 04:02 AM, Marius Gedminas wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 07:17:35PM +0000, Max Bowsher wrote:
>> Marius Gedminas wrote:
>>> The flashing button in the window list tends to attract attention.
>> A flashing button in the window list says "deal with me NOW NOW NOW!".
> 
> Well, no.  A system-modal popup dialog says "NOW NOW NOW".  A flashing
> button says "please deal with me in a couple of minutes, ok?  how about
> now?  how about now?  please?  c'mon, do it!"
> 
>> The previous update-notifier orange rosette / red arrow was is easily
>> noticeable, but not intrusive.

Lack of intrusiveness is good for "everyone" Well at least those of us
that use Ubuntu as our work station. During working hours i don't need a
big thing popping up in my face to do updates or what not.

> I gather that was the problem: lack of intrusiveness.  Non-advanced
> users did not notice it and did not install important security updates.
> 
This is not really a great way to think of it IMHO.
I know you didn't mean it this way or at least didn't intend to mean it
this way but i didn't see a problem with using cron to check for updates
and showing the icon in panel.
We are unable to please everyone and i realize that some people didn't
see it or didn't know what it meant.

By no means does that imply we should have update-manager open up i big
window whether it takes focus or not. maybe make it a smaller window.
It should also not open if you are already running updates in terminal.
My reasoning behind this is that in the past apt was only able to run
one instance at a time and i am assuming update-manager still uses apt
to update the list, we are still only able to run one instance of
apt/dpkg at a time outside of U-M.

-- 
Sincerely Yours,
    John Vivirito

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