Question

Allen Zhu allen.jaloola at gmail.com
Tue Feb 24 22:45:05 GMT 2009


On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Steve Langasek
<steve.langasek at ubuntu.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:22:44AM -0500, Martin Owens wrote:
>
> > http://www.mcgo.org.mk/toolkid.htm
>
> > http://eurologo2005.oeiizk.waw.pl/PDF/E2005IvanovIlieva.pdf
>
> > The program 'ToolKid' looks like a educational tool for teaching
> > programming concepts based on Logo.
>
> > It may be possible to replicate some of the functionality to the Logo
> > tools currently available and I can only see the following paths in
> > order of least work and greatest benefit:
>
> >  1) Get in touch with the makers of ToolKid and persuade them to make it
> > Open Source software. They don't have to make their content free and you
> > could even pay them to license the code as GPL for instance.
> >  2) Convince the makers of ToolKid to make a proprietary port to Ubuntu
> > and tie it's working on Ubuntu to the contract.
> >  3) Find and/or develop the existing available Logo teaching tools
> > available in the repository and convince the MCGO to use that instead.
> > See eToys and KTurtle in the repositories.
> >  4) Develop fixes for wine that enable the windows version of toolkid to
> > run under ubuntu.
> >  5) Install windows xp on all your machines and use that instead of
> > ubuntu.
>
> 5) is not an option because as stated at the root of the thread, the
> machines are not theirs to install Windows on.  These are the systems that
> are part of the Ubuntu school deployment in Macedonia.
>
> I think 4) should be given greater emphasis here.  With Wine claiming "1.0"
> status, it should be entirely possible to get this software working under
> Wine, possibly with bugfixes to Wine that benefit users trying to get other
> Windows applications working under Ubuntu.  But the toolkid url above
> doesn't appear to include a download link, and no specifics have been given
> in this thread about how ToolKid fails under Wine; without that, there's
> not
> much opportunity for forward progress.
>
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However, how will he find people to modify wine?

I mean, he has to find someone whose experienced and good at source.

Seems as if Mackenzie's suggestion, KTurtle might work?

Allen
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