<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 11:53 AM, Steve Langasek <<a href="mailto:steve.langasek@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">steve.langasek@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div>On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 07:22:44AM -0500, Martin Owens wrote: > <a href="http://www.mcgo.org.mk/toolkid.htm" target="_blank">http://www.mcgo.org.mk/toolkid.htm</a> > <a href="http://eurologo2005.oeiizk.waw.pl/PDF/E2005IvanovIlieva.pdf" target="_blank">http://eurologo2005.oeiizk.waw.pl/PDF/E2005IvanovIlieva.pdf</a> > The program 'ToolKid' looks like a educational tool for teaching > programming concepts based on Logo. > It may be possible to replicate some of the functionality to the Logo > tools currently available and I can only see the following paths in > order of least work and greatest benefit: > 1) Get in touch with the makers of ToolKid and persuade them to make it > Open Source software. They don't have to make their content free and you > could even pay them to license the code as GPL for instance. > 2) Convince the makers of ToolKid to make a proprietary port to Ubuntu > and tie it's working on Ubuntu to the contract. > 3) Find and/or develop the existing available Logo teaching tools > available in the repository and convince the MCGO to use that instead. > See eToys and KTurtle in the repositories. > 4) Develop fixes for wine that enable the windows version of toolkid to > run under ubuntu. > 5) Install windows xp on all your machines and use that instead of > ubuntu. </div>5) is not an option because as stated at the root of the thread, the machines are not theirs to install Windows on. These are the systems that are part of the Ubuntu school deployment in Macedonia. I think 4) should be given greater emphasis here. With Wine claiming "1.0" status, it should be entirely possible to get this software working under Wine, possibly with bugfixes to Wine that benefit users trying to get other Windows applications working under Ubuntu. But the toolkid url above doesn't appear to include a download link, and no specifics have been given in this thread about how ToolKid fails under Wine; without that, there's not much opportunity for forward progress. -- <div>Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer <a href="http://www.debian.org/" target="_blank">http://www.debian.org/</a> <a href="mailto:slangasek@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">slangasek@ubuntu.com</a> <a href="mailto:vorlon@debian.org" target="_blank">vorlon@debian.org</a> -- </div><div><div></div><div>ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com" target="_blank">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </div></div></blockquote></div>However, how will he find people to modify wine? I mean, he has to find someone whose experienced and good at source. Seems as if Mackenzie's suggestion, KTurtle might work? Allen