RFC: new modes in network-manager 0.7 + ifupdown

[Alexander Sack]

On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 05:04:28PM +0100, James Westby wrote:
> On Mon, 2008-10-13 at 17:05 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
> > Yes, thats right and I thought about that case before.
> > 
> > The right solution would use nm-tool or some handcrafted D-Bus calls
> > to detect whether NM is running in managed mode or not. That should be
> > fairly simple and is certainly something we should look into for
> > jaunty.
> 
> Um, forgive my ignorance, but when "ifup -a" is run at boot is the
> system bus going to be running?

Right ;) ... so the right solution has yet to be explored. My guess is
that we won't find a perfect solution until we reached the point where
we can completely replace ifupdown.

> 
> For Intrepid timeframe would adding a check for the presence of
> /usr/sbin/NetworkManager be reasonable?

This would be a better heuristic, yes. But still we would get
false-positives.

That said, I don't think that we need to fix this in intrepid. Its
nothing that affects default installs and users that opted for testing
the experimental managed=true mode will most likely keep using NM
anyway.

 - Alexander