Fwd: [LiveCD Windows portion should install SBM so you can boot CD w/o changing BIOS boot order] (Was:[Bug 57379]...)

[Jason Spiro]

Hi all,

Dustin Harriman suggests below that you modify the Ubuntu liveCD's
Windows portion.  The Windows portion should be able to install SBM on
your computer so that users can boot from CD without changing the boot
order in their BIOS.  What do you think of this idea?

Cheers,
Jason

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: DustinHarriman <dustinharriman at gmail.com>
Date: 06-may-2007 19:18
Subject: Re: [Bug 57379] Re: end users should not have to access BIOS
whatsoever to install Ubuntu
To: jasonspiro3 at gmail.com


Hello Henrik,

Glad to hear you're on the case, and there is momentum behind this
issue.

I have another possibility for you to add to
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerForWindows

"Smart Boot Manager"
http://btmgr.sourceforge.net/about.html
Summary: "Smart Boot Manager (SBM) is an OS independent and
full-featured boot manager with an easy-to-use user interface.  SBM
now supports booting from CD-ROM."

It's GPL'ed too!

Perhaps SBM could be installable from the menu that pops up when you
insert the Ubuntu CD while in Windows.  SBM could be installed to the
MBR allowing the default booting to CD (and optionally Windows, just
in case).  After SBM is installed to the MBR, then ask the user to
simply reboot with the Ubuntu CD still in the drive.  Then SBM could
be used (from the MBR) to chainload boot to their Ubuntu CD, **thereby
bypassing the need to change the BIOS settings**.  The Ubuntu install
process would then overwrite SBM in the MBR as it installs grub.
Which is fine, as the purpose of installing Ubuntu is served.

Note: Future booting from CD (say, to use a rescue CD later on) could
still be made possible in this convenient fashion by the Ubuntu
install process making a grub menu entry to boot SBM not from the MBR,
but from the root filesystem of Ubuntu, much like memtest86 is done.
Here is info on how to do that:
"GRUB/Chainloaded CD-ROM"
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Chainloading_a_bootable_CD-ROM_from_GRUB

Cheers,
Dustin.

On 4/26/07, Henrik Nilsen Omma <henrik at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Assigning this to myself. I've charted the main options and written a
> summary here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallerForWindows We'll discuss
> this at UDS.

Cheers,
Dustin Harriman

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