Notes on Beryl

Ulrik Mikaelsson ulrik.mikaelsson at
Mon Oct 30 18:00:45 GMT 2006

Regarding Gnome "Integration" there's of course a reason why Beryl in the
forking process decided to be desktop neutral.

I don't know for sure but I've got a feeling the KWin devs would appreciate
a non-biased compositing manager to adopt over a Gnomish Compiz.

Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't it still be possible to write a
Gnomified version of beryl-settings and emerald-theme-manager?

In my view, basic subsystems, such as graphics compositing, filesystems,
networking, file-indexing services should be kept as desktop and
distribution-neutral as possible. It's then up to the desktop and
distribution to put it's own flavor on top of it and present it to the
users. Tracker, DBUS, NetworkManager AND Beryl is doing a good job here,
trying to stay neutral with completely separate projects for integration
into the desktops.

That said, there's nothing stopping anyone for creating applications,
meta-packages etc. to integrate Beryl to a nice default desktop on Gnome and
Ubuntu. Just let Beryl itself stay neutral. :)

/ Ulrik

On 10/30/06, Aigars Mahinovs <aigarius at> wrote:
> On 10/30/06, Thom May <thom at> wrote:
> > In this respect I succeeeded admirably. In the respect of having a
> working,
> > well integrated desktop environment, it was a horrible failure. Here's
> why:
> Beryl is very nice and strong, but too many of its features are
> exposed in non-HIGish form. If all (or most) of beryl can do could be
> exposed via current Gnome configuration interfaces (with some
> additions), and if sensibe and conservative defaults would be provided
> (with conversion from old settings), then beryl could very well be a
> great default window manager.
> BTW: beryl manager makes a fallback to metacity if beryl can not be
> started or crashes.
> It does need a lot of HIG love and integration polish, but in all it
> is a very nice improvement.
> Most of all I like the ability to tweak the window border themes in a
> graphical way with instant feedback.
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