move the ubuntu irc channels to jabber ?

[Cody Somerville]

I'm no expert but here is my opinion:

* From the rational point this is a better solution, because you can
> use your existing IM program like Gaim and Kopete to connect to the
> chat channels.


Gaim already supports IRC. I think Kopete does as well.

* In Jabber the Server communicate among each other, which means that
> a user which has an account on jabber server a can enter a channel on
> server b without connecting to server b and identifying on server b.


IRC does the same thing and that is why it is called Internet Relay Chat.

* Ubuntu as a free distribution should support the spreading of open
> and standardized protocols in the IM world.


IRC is an open, standardized protocol as well.

 Why should we not move to Jabber?

   1. Confusion. Old documents, information, websites, memories, etc.
   would point to the IRC channels. People would visit the IRC channels looking
   for help and would be sadly disappointed. Just migrating to anything could
   be potentially damaging.
   2. Popularity. Though I may be wrong, I perceive IRC to be more
   popular then Jabber. Personally, I idle on several ubuntu related
   channels just because I happen to be on the same network. If channels were
   distributed over several different networks (or protocols for that matter)
   then I'm sure some of the channels wouldn't see me very often.
    3. Consistency. I would imagine some people would refuse to move and
   there really isn't much we can do. To my understanding, all ubuntu channels
   pretty much reside on the freenode network and I can tell you from
   experience that this is beneficial. For example, if I heard about xubuntu
   then I might poke my head into #xubuntu to see if anyone is there - tada,
   there are people there!
   4. Effort. I think most people would agree with me that it would be a
   waste of effort.

Sorry to be so adamant about this but I just don't perceive any benefits of
moving. Maybe someone else can think of other benefits that should be
considered?

Thanks for the idea,

Cody A.W. Somerville

On 10/21/06, Samir van de Sand <samir.vds at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I just read the call for specifications for UDS Mountain View. So
> here's my idea:
>
> Why not move the Ubuntu channels to Jabber? Jabber provides a feature
> called MUC,  where Jabber users can create chat rooms on a jabber
> server to communicate with each other. Here are possible reasons why
> the Ubuntu channels should move to jabber:
> * From the rational point this is a better solution, because you can
> use your existing IM program like Gaim and Kopete to connect to the
> chat channels.
> * In Jabber the Server communicate among each other, which means that
> a user which has an account on jabber server a can enter a channel on
> server b without connecting to server b and identifying on server b.
> * Ubuntu as a free distribution should support the spreading of open
> and standardized protocols in the IM world.
>
> What do you guys think about that ?
>
>
> regards Samir
>
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