I'm no expert but here is my opinion: <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">* From the rational point this is a better solution, because you can use your existing IM program like Gaim and Kopete to connect to the chat channels.</blockquote> <div> Gaim already supports IRC. I think Kopete does as well. <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">* In Jabber the Server communicate among each other, which means that a user which has an account on jabber server a can enter a channel on server b without connecting to server b and identifying on server b.</blockquote> <div> IRC does the same thing and that is why it is called Internet Relay Chat. <blockquote style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;" class="gmail_quote">* Ubuntu as a free distribution should support the spreading of open and standardized protocols in the IM world.</blockquote> <div> IRC is an open, standardized protocol as well.  Why should we not move to Jabber? <ol> <li>Confusion. Old documents, information, websites, memories, etc. would point to the IRC channels. People would visit the IRC channels looking for help and would be sadly disappointed. Just migrating to anything could be potentially damaging.</li> <li>Popularity. Though I may be wrong, I perceive IRC to be more popular then Jabber. Personally, I idle on several ubuntu related channels just because I happen to be on the same network. If channels were distributed over several different networks (or protocols for that matter) then I'm sure some of the channels wouldn't see me very often. </li> <li>Consistency. I would imagine some people would refuse to move and there really isn't much we can do. To my understanding, all ubuntu channels pretty much reside on the freenode network and I can tell you from experience that this is beneficial. For example, if I heard about xubuntu then I might poke my head into #xubuntu to see if anyone is there - tada, there are people there!</li> <li>Effort. I think most people would agree with me that it would be a waste of effort.</li> </ol> Sorry to be so adamant about this but I just don't perceive any benefits of moving. Maybe someone else can think of other benefits that should be considered? Thanks for the idea, Cody A.W. Somerville </div></div></div> <div>On 10/21/06, Samir van de Sand <<a href="mailto:samir.vds@googlemail.com">samir.vds@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi everyone, I just read the call for specifications for UDS Mountain View. So here's my idea: Why not move the Ubuntu channels to Jabber? Jabber provides a feature called MUC,  where Jabber users can create chat rooms on a jabber server to communicate with each other. Here are possible reasons why the Ubuntu channels should move to jabber: * From the rational point this is a better solution, because you can use your existing IM program like Gaim and Kopete to connect to the chat channels. * In Jabber the Server communicate among each other, which means that a user which has an account on jabber server a can enter a channel on server b without connecting to server b and identifying on server b. * Ubuntu as a free distribution should support the spreading of open and standardized protocols in the IM world. What do you guys think about that ? regards Samir -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote> </div> -- Firefox (<a href="http://www.getfirefox.com">www.getfirefox.com</a>) -- A browser you can trust