Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Scott Dier)

Thu Jun 29 08:02:23 BST 2006

Hi Folks

Thanks for all your comments and suggestions.

We don't really mind if TomeRaider comes out on other flavors of Linux than
Ubuntu. I just feel that for Linux to take of in a meaningful sense there
needs to be some unity behind a distribution, and Ubuntu seems totally the
one for that:)

What we don't want is to lose revenue from our Windows and Handheld sales of
TomeRaider.

We have done lots of freeware over the years but never any OS so its all new
territory. I hope that our absolute willingness to say "The Ubuntu dev
comunity can have this code, app and the thousands of Tomeraider reference
works and ebooks for nothing and we will help as much as we can on any
level" wont be hampered because of an excessive purism that responds "Thats
great, but you must also make it OS on Windows" :)

I have had a real epihany about Ubuntu:)

 Thanks again folks,

Mat Ripley

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>    1. Re: ZeroConf in Ubuntu Edgy (Matt Zimmerman)
>    2. Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Ivan Krstic)
>    3. Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Ivan Krstic)
>    4. Re: MoM is running (Scott James Remnant)
>    5. Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Scott Dier)
>    6. Migrating to Edgy eft (chantra)
>    7. Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Dane Mutters)
>    8. Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu (Micah J. Cowan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:18:59 -0700
> From: Matt Zimmerman <mdz at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: ZeroConf in Ubuntu Edgy
> To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 10:47:58PM +0200, John Nilsson wrote:
> > On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 09:15 +0800, Trent Lloyd wrote:
> > > Ubuntu has a no-open-ports by-default policy, which means that any
> > > mDNS/DNS-SD based discovery cannot be enabled by default.
> >
> > How about a semi-closed policy? I.e. having a iptables configuration
> > that is a bit more trusting of private networks.
>
> That's an interesting idea.  But are enough ISPs and corporate networks
> doing proper filtering these days for that to be safe?
>
> --
> - mdz
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:22:13 -0700
> From: Ivan Krstic <krstic at fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu
> To: Mat Ripley <mat at yadabyte.com>
> Cc: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> Message-ID: <44A30F25.4020609 at fas.harvard.edu>
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> Hi Mat,
>
> Mat Ripley wrote:
> > After falling in love with ubuntu I really would like our TomeRaider on
> > it. We are happy to make it free and open source just for the Ubuntu
> > distro (I know that unusual, but ubuntu is the future, IMHO)
>
> Free software (software libre, as opposed to gratis software) by
> definition doesn't restrict its users from modifying it or
> redistributing it [1].
>
> It's essentially not possible to release your software under a truly
> free license if it includes a provision that revokes the same license
> from any distributor that's not Ubuntu; remember also that there's a
> growing number of Ubuntu derivative distributions (such as Kubuntu,
> Xubuntu, nubuntu, ImpiLinux, and so on) that would be adversely affected
> by such a provision.
>
> If you were, however, willing to make this a contribution to the whole
> open source and free software community, it would be very warmly
> greeted, and I'm sure you'd have no trouble finding help in getting the
> source code ported.
>
> > Is anyone available to help?
>
> You should probably first decide on the path you want to pursue with
> regard to licensing. If you choose a free software license, simply
> opening up a repository with the TomeRaider source code for public
> access, and announcing the decision, will likely attract developers who
> would be interested in helping with the port.
>
> --
> Ivan Krstic <krstic at fas.harvard.edu> | GPG: 0x147C722D
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:26:20 -0700
> From: Ivan Krstic <krstic at fas.harvard.edu>
> Subject: Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu
> To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Ivan Krstic wrote:
> > Free software (software libre, as opposed to gratis software) by
> > definition doesn't restrict its users from modifying it or
> > redistributing it [1].
>
> I missed adding this footnote; it was going to read 'with certain
> potential caveats, such as the GPL redistribution clause that requires
> modified GPL software to be made available under the terms of the GPL
> license'.
>
> --
> Ivan Krstic <krstic at fas.harvard.edu> | GPG: 0x147C722D
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:19:55 +0100
> From: Scott James Remnant <scott at ubuntu.com>
> Subject: Re: MoM is running
> To: Ubuntu Development <ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 04:06 +0100, Scott James Remnant wrote:
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> > Either way, there's plenty of output to get chewing on.
> >
> The outstanding merges for each component now have status pages
> (regenerated once a day):
>
>         https://merges.ubuntu.com/main.html
>         https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html
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> You can grep these for your name if you like...
>
> Scott
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:43:40 -0500
> From: Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org>
> Subject: Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu
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> Ivan Krstic wrote:
> > Free software (software libre, as opposed to gratis software) by
> > definition doesn't restrict its users from modifying it or
> > redistributing it [1].
>
> Now one thing thats been seen in the past is not releasing the UI code
> for other operating systems but only open sourcing the application and
> the needed UI code for X11 based operating systems.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --
> Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 01:47:15 +0200
> From: chantra <chantra at debuntu.org>
> Subject: Migrating to Edgy eft
> To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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> Hi,
>
> As Edgy eft is derived from debian unstable, I was wondering if it would
> be better to install a clean debian unsable and then migrate to edgy eft
> or smply upgrade to edgy eft.
>
> What I did so far: I upgrading from dapper to edgy, result kde/qt based
> applications are broken. It seems that new kubuntu packages are getting
> in and will resolve the trouble.
> But still, will I have a more stable by going from debian unstable to
> edgy or from dapper to edgy.
>
> cheerio
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:35:54 -0700
> From: Dane Mutters <dmutters at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu
> To: ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
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> On Wednesday 28 June 2006 16:43, Scott Dier wrote:
> > Ivan Krstic wrote:
> > > Free software (software libre, as opposed to gratis software) by
> > > definition doesn't restrict its users from modifying it or
> > > redistributing it [1].
> >
> > Now one thing thats been seen in the past is not releasing the UI code
> > for other operating systems but only open sourcing the application and
> > the needed UI code for X11 based operating systems.
>
> Couldn't he also put it in Universe or Multiverse?
>
> --Dane
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:39:32 -0700
> From: "Micah J. Cowan" <micah at cowan.name>
> Subject: Re: Help Porting Our TomeRaider to Ubuntu
> To: Scott Dier <dieman at ringworld.org>
> Cc: Ubuntu Developer Discussion <ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Message-ID: <20060628173931.A41563 at micah.cowan.name>
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> On Wed, Jun 28, 2006 at 06:43:40PM -0500, Scott Dier wrote:
> > Ivan Krstic wrote:
> > > Free software (software libre, as opposed to gratis software) by
> > > definition doesn't restrict its users from modifying it or
> > > redistributing it [1].
> >
> > Now one thing thats been seen in the past is not releasing the UI code
> > for other operating systems but only open sourcing the application and
> > the needed UI code for X11 based operating systems.
>
> Such licenses are firmly outside the domain of FOSS. Does Ubuntu include
> any such packages in main or universe?
>
> Also, it doesn't really matter, but IIRC I haven't seen any software
> that's open only for X11-based operating systems; only for operating
> systems which are themselves open. Note that one might term a Windows
> version packaged with Cygwin (or MS proprietary X servers) an "X11-based
> operating system", whereas there are many Linux systems that are not
> X11-based.
>
> --
> Micah J. Cowan
> Programmer, musician, typesetting enthusiast, gamer...
> http://micah.cowan.name/
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Mat Ripley
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