Mono required by ubuntu-desktop
jamiemcc at blueyonder.co.uk
Mon Jul 31 01:19:12 BST 2006
Corey Burger wrote:
> On 7/30/06, Jamie McCracken <jamiemcc at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>> Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> > We will ship what we feel to be the optimal tradeoff between
>> resources and
>> > functionality. Note that Tomboy and Mono consume nothing but disk
>> > unless you actually run the application, so you don't need to worry
>> about it
>> > on low-memory machines. OpenOffice.org gets pretty unhappy on such
>> > as well.
>> I know but you missed my point. Why should an efficient app (Gthumb) be
>> replaced with one thats considerably more inefficient by default?
> I see this claim that "Mono is bloated" being bandied about a lot.
> However, I don't see much evidence either way. In this specific
> instance, do you have hard data that gthumb uses less memory than
Some mono apps are more bloated than others so yeah you cant make
sweeping general statements on it. I accept tomboy is leaner than most
other mono apps but on the other hand I find fspot to be one of the
I suggest you import 50-60 pics or so then check memory. Last time I
checked resident memory of fspot was around 98MB (with approx 10mb shared)
Can others come up with hard figures too so we have a balanced view?
> However, this is really beating around the bush, because the biggest
> issue is that gthumb is basically dead as an upstream, while fspot is
> very active. Gthumb also has serious issues with importing and
> stability. So even if you were to come with evidence that gthumb is
> smaller (memory wise), I I just don't see it out weighing the
> unmaintained aspect of gthumb.
I find gthumb to be usable and efficient. Its missing tags and a few
other things (which can easily be rectified by adding tracker support to
it) but yeah fspot is more polished and has a cool history widget.
> Oh, and lets keep this on topic of gthumb, fspot and other mono apps.
> Lets no wander off into OOo and abiword, etc or even what to ship by
> default beyond this specific issues. There are good reasons to talk
> about those, just not in this thread.
I agree but memory efficiency is an important issue especially on
notebooks and older machines (and it aint just mono thats a problem here
as others have pointed out). I just hope sensible defaults will be
applied in the *desktop* whichever way it goes.
Mr Jamie McCracken
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