New ZeroConf Spec

Christoph Sturm christoph.sturm at
Wed Jul 19 15:36:19 BST 2006

I find this thread quite funny and it was just a matter of time until
someone started to educate someone else about correct quoting. :)

adding my 2cents I would really favor opening the avahi port. You can
then notify people who need the extra security, how to turn it off.
"Normal users" will not want to turn something on, they want their
network to "just work" and ubuntu should be easy for exactly that type
of users.

a good linux distro needs to be opinionated, and i had the feeling
that judging the two goals "no open ports" and "it just works" ubuntu
would go the "it just works" route.


On 7/19/06, Ian Jackson <ian at> wrote:
> Hervé Fache writes ("Re: New ZeroConf Spec"):
> > On 7/18/06, Ian Jackson <ian at> wrote:
> > > It is not really possible for the system to tell reliably whether its
> > > ethernet interface is exposed to the Internet or is only on `a local
> > > network' (whatever that might mean, but presumably something with less
> > > hostile traffic).
> >
> > In some cases, it is:
> Other people have pointed out that this is not factually accurate.
> However, you've also failed to address my other key point about this:
> > > If it were possible to tell and the intent is to treat `friendly local
> > > network' differently from `direct connection to global Internet via eg
> > > DSL' or `unsecured ad-hoc wifi' or whatever, then this should be
> > > explained in the spec, obviously: the spec should say how the
> > > different things will be distinguished and how they will be treated.
> I'm afraid I also want to complain about your list etiquette:
> Firstly, please could you trim the quoted text when replying.  This
> makes your messages easier to read for us.  And, if you read the
> quoted text to decide whether to keep it or cut it, you're less likely
> to overlook important things said in the message you're responding to.
> Secondly, you sent two separate copies of that message: one to the
> list, and one to me privately.  Please don't do that, because it
> causes confusion.  If you must send me a copy of your list posting
> (people disagree about whether this is a good idea) then you should
> _CC_ me, not send me a completely different message which appears to
> have been sent only to me !
> Ian.
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