Dropping pre-i686 from the archive

Ben Aldrich vrecan at gmail.com
Tue Jan 3 22:16:28 GMT 2006


I completely agree with this, the oldest machines I see anymore are p2's &
K6 chips.. Supporting basicly dead chips is a waste of resources.

On 1/3/06, Lea Gris <lea.gris at noiraude.net> wrote:
>
> Jeff Bailey a écrit :
>
> > 2) i486 for small / embedded systems like routers is an ideal target for
> > µbuntu.
>
> Agree with all the above including not cited.
>
> >
> > Tks,
> > Jeff Bailey & Matthias Klose
> >
> > [0] http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.0/criteria.html
> >
> > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentium_Pro
> >
> > [2] 37 seconds to load writer on a Pentium 3 750 with 192MB of RAM.
>
> 20 seconds to load oowriter2 on a Pentium 4E 3.0Ghz multithreaded with
> 512MB of RAM,  53MB raw disk access, reiserfs file system.
>
> hdparm -t /dev/hda
> /dev/hda:
> Timing buffered disk reads:  162 MB in  3.01 seconds =  53.88 MB/sec
>
> All this with current up to date Dapper.
> Linux coincoin 2.6.15-10-686 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Dec 27 18:42:30 UTC 2005
> i686 GNU/Linux
> lea at coincoin:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo
> processor       : 0
> vendor_id       : GenuineIntel
> cpu family      : 15
> model           : 3
> model name      : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
> stepping        : 3
> cpu MHz         : 3007.911
> cache size      : 1024 KB
> fdiv_bug        : no
> hlt_bug         : no
> f00f_bug        : no
> coma_bug        : no
> fpu             : yes
> fpu_exception   : yes
> cpuid level     : 3
> wp              : yes
> flags           : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge
> mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe pni
> monitor ds_cpl cid
> bogomips        : 6017.61
>
> processor 1 same à 0
>
> All of this to show, openoffice load time should not show significant
> difference bedween a medern system and old PentiumIII. (shame)
>
> Furthermore, I also agree a distribution like Ubuntu should not try to
> be everything Linux could be. Splitting it as µbuntu, server, desktop
> and so on, is ok if it serve developpment effort mutualisation in scale,
> and it doesn't disseminate ressources and quality.
>
> Dropping pre-i686 for Dapper+1 seems appropriate for workstations and
> high end servers versions of Ubuntu. It doesn't for rich embeded devices
> or even terminal server (RTSP), There are still good use for old PC
> hardware as good enough desktop diskless X terminal clients or even as
> diskless rich clients.
>
> I'll try to do this rich diskless client things based on Ubuntu Live if
> I can find time to learn enough about the setup.
>
> --
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