2c about the development of ubuntu

Udo 'Robos' robos at muon.de
Tue Jan 3 01:53:35 GMT 2006

On Mon, 02.01.06, Matt Zimmerman <mdz at ubuntu.com> wrote:


> > ubuntu on the server, ltsp and also the amd64 part.
> What amd64 work are you referring to here?  amd64 has been an officially
> supported Ubuntu port since the very first release, and will remain so.

Then I mistook that for debian, their support for amd64 is just coming up.

> > I even think I see and experience the problem already: breezy has exploded in
> > my face on 5 machines. My laptop didn't work too well after the upgrade so I
> > reinstalled - to also test how the installer worked (I *hate* reinstalling).
> > After that, hibernation works only strange, if at all, and my wireless mouse
> > doesn't work at plugin-time, I have to modprobe (-r) stuff to get it working.
> > My machine at work can't log in with gdm or xdm, I have to use kdm. This is
> > also after a normal upgrade. My main machine also didn't survive the upgrade
> > too well so I reinstalled but that didn't help much. Burning software (like
> > nautilus and gnomebaker) worked very bad so I thought, what the heck, let's
> > try dapper on my main machine.
> The best approach to this type of problem is to attempt to debug it and
> report your findings as a bug.  Sometimes when encountering a problem,
> frustration leads to the temptation to blame the problem on abstract goals,
> when in reality these are usually straightforward technical problems.
> Especially when it comes to hardware support, the ONLY feasible way for
> regressions to be found is through community participation in
> testing well BEFORE the final release.  By the time an Ubuntu release is
> official, it's usually too late to fix such problems.

Well, the sheer number of problem I encounter and the diversity make me
think that that the resources are getting thin. I already posted bugs to
malone and looked up other problems as already being listed. But despite a
huge goal being "ubuntu on the laptop" I still see those old problems. 
For instance, is swsusp2 getting into ubuntu? That would need much love and
work but that would bring a real benefit to the users since then a laptop
really become more usuable. The speed difference between the old software 
suspend and the new one is huge! And acpi needs looots of work for more
machines to be able to suspend to ram. 
As a side note, is a machine with an nvidia card supposed to be able to

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