friendly comment: design problem about logout

[Sandis Neilands]

Hello Manu!

On 2/24/06, Manu Cornet <lmanul at ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> Hi !
>
> > > Problem, as I think it is
> > > There are 2 sets of buttons that do all the logout, suspend, hibernate
> > > job:
> > >  (1) The "System" menu on the top-left corner
> > >  (2) The button with door on the top-right corner
> > I agree that this is a design problem, I've cc'ed this to the
> > ubuntu-devel list.
>
> Eventually, we'll probably only keep the applet (top-right corner) for
> new users. For existing users, we're hesitating to leave the menu entry
> (in "System") as well so that they can keep doing what they are used to
> doing.

The idea of removing menu item is really bad.
1) Menu item provides useful and immediately available text message.
2) Log out is used so rarely that it can safely live under nice menu,
rather than clutter the panel.
3) It breaks consistency - removing other items from panel is safe,
because they are still under menu (think evo). A lot of users don't
and won't like the log out icon on the corner and they will remove it.
But (surprise, surprise!) when eventually they will try to turn off
their computers they won't find a way how to do it and will file bugs
about missing menu item.

By the way, trash applet suffers from the 3) too. It should live under
places menu and be accessible even if the user removes panel.

If my memory serves me well, you are the author of the new log out
dialog. Don't worry, people will still see your work without
unnecessary panel item.

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Sandis