Matt Zimmerman mdz at
Thu Sep 8 13:55:02 CDT 2005

On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 05:45:45PM +0200, Wouter Stomp wrote:
> On 9/7/05, Matt Zimmerman <mdz at> wrote:
> > On Wed, Sep 07, 2005 at 02:06:37PM +0200, Carsten wrote:
> > > But there's probably no chance to still get actual amarok/taglib
> > > versions in breezy, is it?
> > 
> > Not unless there are extenuating circumstances which justify an exception to
> > the release schedule.
> > 
> > --
> >  - mdz
> > 
> Well, while it is probably too late, just to give it a try, I would
> say there are extenuating circumstances:
> Amarok is one of the most popular applications of the moment and 1.3
> is a much anticipated, great upgrade with lots of added functionality
> which makes upgrading worth it.

At this point in the release cycle, new features are a compelling reason
*not* to update an application.  We are in strict bugfixing mode, and new
features add bugs rather than fixing them.

> Already, more than a month before
> breezy is released, the forums and mailing lists are full of threads
> about installing it, requests for it to be added to backports and
> questions why it isn't in breezy. Leaving it out will even cause a
> substancial group of people to use another distro (even though they
> could install it through backports when it is available) and of course
> you could say that that is their choice, I think it would be good for
> Ubuntu to include it. Also its absence will be mentioned in reviews of
> breezy over and over again.

People who are excited to try the new functionality are encouraged to use
backports.  The mainline distribution is about providing stabilized
6-monthly releases, while backports is about providing the latest software
on top of this platform.

> ps. its betaversions were also very popular and have been well tested
> by a lot of people so it should relatively introduce less new bugs
> than the update of an average program.

They haven't been tested in Ubuntu packaged form, though.

A month ago this could have been considered; now we are in the midst of
preparing the preview release.

 - mdz

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