John Richard Moser
nigelenki at comcast.net
Tue Oct 18 14:38:04 CDT 2005
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Jeff Bailey wrote:
> Le mardi 18 octobre 2005 à 15:13 -0400, John Richard Moser a écrit :
>>I have no idea who's the best to ask for this.
>>I want to start a task in an initrd and have it stay running after init
>>is started. Pretty much:
>>What's the feasibility of this without the system balking and vomiting
>>chunks everywhere? I'm pretty sure 'exec /sbin/init' from linuxrc
>>(PID=1) will replace the process image of sh (linuxrc) with init,
>>keeping PID=1; but I'm worried this may terminate children too. Haven't
> This is much more easily supported in Breezy. usplash is started at the
> top of the initramfs (from the init-top hook) and lives until we start
So in short it's possible?
> The biggest constraint is that you don't have write access to the target
> root filesystem (since it's mounted readonly). However, /dev is a tmpfs
> that is move mounted to the new root system. If you need to have
> sockets open or store data, you can use that. usplash does this for its
That's not much of a problem for me. What I'm contemplating is a FUSE
file system driver that gets started in the initrd, and a kernel that
has a file system driver built-in for something stupid like cramfs or MINIX.
The idea is that (as proof of concept) it should be possible to supply
something like ext3 as a FUSE driver, and boot off it as the rootfs
without building ext3 into the kernel or ever modprobing it. Besides
just being damn cool, and a show of quasi-hybrid microkernelism at work
(uh oh now Linus is going to remove FUSE from mainline :), it'd allow
some real visible macro-benchmarking of FUSE.
> Note that the initramfs startup sequence isn't at all similar to the old
> initrd startups. It should be easy for you to cleanly add what you want
> under /etc/mkinitramfs/scripts and not have to modify the
> initramfs-tools package. /usr/share/doc/initramfs-tools/HACKING
> contains some starter information.
> Hope this helps!
> Jeff Bailey
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