AudioCD burning, another call for testers !

Bastien Nocera hadess at
Sat Jul 16 12:45:37 CDT 2005

On Sat, 2005-07-16 at 18:54 +0200, Wouter Stomp wrote:
> On 7/6/05, Oliver Grawert <ogra at> wrote:
> > hi,
> > 
> > as you can see on [2] the audio cd burning target [1] is implemented so
> > far in the deafult desktop seed. to make sure everything works fine for
> > release, we need as much testers as we can get, so if you plan to burn a
> > audio CD these days, please help testing serpentine and file bugs you
> > find in !!
> > 
> > ciao
> >         oli
> > 
> > [1]
> > [2]
> > 
> Hi,
> I see that audiocdburning is considered completed for breezy. From
> earlier posts on the mailing lists I understood that serpentine was
> chosen over gnomebaker with as main reason its dependencies already
> being in main. Recently gnomebaker 0.4 got released which changes this
> whole situation. The new release uses gstreamer just like serpentine.

I think you're confused about the goal of Serpentine: it is an audio CD
burning solution. Gnomebaker is a full-fledged burning solution.

> The only extra dependency which is not yet in main is growisofs for
> DVD burning. So I thought it might be worth reconsidering the
> decision, because of reasons stated below.
> Some pro's and con's I found after playing around for a little while
> with both programs:
> Gnomebaker:
> + can copy cd's (data and audio)

nautilus-cd-burner can do this (right-click on a CD device in
"Computer", you'll see the option there).

> + can import existing session on a cd
> + copying data cd's on the fly

We should support that, although I'm not sure it's a very good idea.

> + adding files is easier (no need to go to a seperate dialog for every file)
> + can burn dvd's as well

nautilus-cd-burner can burn DVDs as well.

> + can format/blank rewritable discs

nautilus-cd-burner does this before burning the CD. gfloppy should be
extended to be able to blank CD-RWs and DVD+/-RWs as well.

> + seems to be compatible with more cd burners (just from personal
> experience, my aopen DUW1608 is not recognised by serpentine, but is
> by gnomebaker)

Serpentine uses libnautilus-burn, which should use HAL. Check in
hal-device-manager whether your device appears, if not, then it's a
nautilus-cd-burner bug.

> Serpentine:
> + simple basic interface
> + can open playlist files
> + muine plugin
> - doesn't support burnfree? (not sure about this one)

Should be able to, although it could create lesser quality CDs, if
there's actually a problem.

> - seems still a little buggy from my experience (haven't filed bugs
> yet for the issues I had, will do that later...)
> Overall I think gnomebaker is much more powerful and adds a lot of
> funcionality. Especially the cd copying function I think fills a gap
> in Ubuntu. Both programs have had a lot of testing, so that wouldn't
> make a difference. I realize this would mean more work on something
> that is considered completed when there is already a lot of work to do
> for breezy, but in this case I think it could be worth it... I am
> wondering what others think about this.


Bastien Nocera <hadess at> 

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