Modular desktop?
Shimon
shimen at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 05:57:17 CST 2005
dude openoffice 1.x sucks try openoffice 2.x it follows the Gnome and
KDE HIGs where ever possible and its in GTK 2 trust you will love it
On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:07:37 -0500, John Richard Moser
<nigelenki at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Personally, I hate openoffice.org for many reasons. It's slow, it's
> bloated, there's no amd64 version (32 bit on amd64), I can't make it
> handle RTF properly (ignores headers saved in other apps, applies
> formatting directly and discards styles when saving), and the UI is just
> ugly.
>
> For a size check, here's openoffice:
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> openoffice.org*
> openoffice.org-bin*
> openoffice.org-debian-files*
> openoffice.org-gtk-gnome*
> openoffice.org-help-en*
> openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-gb*
> openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us*
> openoffice.org-l10n-en*
> ubuntu-desktop*
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 200MB disk space will be freed.
>
> And here's abiword (word processing), gnumeric (spreadsheet), and dia
> (diagram editor):
>
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
> abiword-common*
> abiword-gnome
> abiword-help
> abiword-plugins-gnome
> dia-common*
> dia-gnome*
> dia-libs*
> gnumeric*
> gnumeric-common
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 58.5MB disk space will be freed.
>
> A formula editor and a presentation program aren't likely to take up
> another 140 megs of space. Unfortunately I don't know of a formula
> editor for gnome; and agnubis (presentation editor) isn't out yet and
> won't be for a while.
>
> I understand right now we're stuck with open office, and that some
> people LIKE openoffice. I still feel steps should be taken to allow
> traversal to another office suite when the time comes.
>
> Here's what I propose: make ubuntu-desktop modular. Make it a
> meta-package that depends on other meta-packages instead of directly on
> other packages, and make meta-packages which depend on other
> meta-packages. For example
>
> ubuntu-desktop
> DEPEND: ubuntu-office
> DEPEND: ubuntu-groupware
> DEPEND: ubuntu-misc
>
> ubuntu-office-suite
> DEPEND: ubuntu-office-openoffice.org (default)
> OR ubuntu-office-gnomeoffice
>
> ubuntu-groupware
> DEPEND: ubuntu-groupware-evolution (default)
> OR ubuntu-groupware-mozilla-lightning
>
> ubuntu-misc
> DEPEND: (everything that's left)
>
> The defaults would go on the Ubuntu CD, while the others would go in a
> second repository (online) such as "extended," which would be supported.
> Of course, this means somebody has to actually support the extended
> package set; this isn't just magical crap that suddenly happens.
>
> Initially there'd be probably only one option per meta-package (i.e.
> openoffice, evolution). The idea is to make sure the infrastructure is
> ready when it's called upon. It should also be such that ubuntu-desktop
> still boils down to exactly what it would normally be by default.
>
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