Modular desktop?

Shimon shimen at gmail.com
Sat Feb 12 05:57:17 CST 2005


dude openoffice 1.x sucks try openoffice 2.x it follows the Gnome and
KDE HIGs where ever possible and its in GTK 2 trust you will love it


On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 21:07:37 -0500, John Richard Moser
<nigelenki at comcast.net> wrote:
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> Personally, I hate openoffice.org for many reasons.  It's slow, it's
> bloated, there's no amd64 version (32 bit on amd64), I can't make it
> handle RTF properly (ignores headers saved in other apps, applies
> formatting directly and discards styles when saving), and the UI is just
> ugly.
> 
> For a size check, here's openoffice:
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   openoffice.org*
>   openoffice.org-bin*
>   openoffice.org-debian-files*
>   openoffice.org-gtk-gnome*
>   openoffice.org-help-en*
>   openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-gb*
>   openoffice.org-hyphenation-en-us*
>   openoffice.org-l10n-en*
>   ubuntu-desktop*
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 200MB disk space will be freed.
> 
> And here's abiword (word processing), gnumeric (spreadsheet), and dia
> (diagram editor):
> 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   abiword-common*
>   abiword-gnome
>   abiword-help
>   abiword-plugins-gnome
>   dia-common*
>   dia-gnome*
>   dia-libs*
>   gnumeric*
>   gnumeric-common
> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 9 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B of archives.
> After unpacking 58.5MB disk space will be freed.
> 
> A formula editor and a presentation program aren't likely to take up
> another 140 megs of space.  Unfortunately I don't know of a formula
> editor for gnome; and agnubis (presentation editor) isn't out yet and
> won't be for a while.
> 
> I understand right now we're stuck with open office, and that some
> people LIKE openoffice.  I still feel steps should be taken to allow
> traversal to another office suite when the time comes.
> 
> Here's what I propose:  make ubuntu-desktop modular.  Make it a
> meta-package that depends on other meta-packages instead of directly on
> other packages, and make meta-packages which depend on other
> meta-packages.  For example
> 
> ubuntu-desktop
> DEPEND: ubuntu-office
> DEPEND: ubuntu-groupware
> DEPEND: ubuntu-misc
> 
> ubuntu-office-suite
> DEPEND: ubuntu-office-openoffice.org (default)
>      OR ubuntu-office-gnomeoffice
> 
> ubuntu-groupware
> DEPEND: ubuntu-groupware-evolution (default)
>      OR ubuntu-groupware-mozilla-lightning
> 
> ubuntu-misc
> DEPEND: (everything that's left)
> 
> The defaults would go on the Ubuntu CD, while the others would go in a
> second repository (online) such as "extended," which would be supported.
>  Of course, this means somebody has to actually support the extended
> package set; this isn't just magical crap that suddenly happens.
> 
> Initially there'd be probably only one option per meta-package (i.e.
> openoffice, evolution).  The idea is to make sure the infrastructure is
> ready when it's called upon.  It should also be such that ubuntu-desktop
> still boils down to exactly what it would normally be by default.
> 
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