Some suggestion of hoary snapshot install

Xan DXpublica at telefonica.net
Thu Feb 10 08:24:18 CST 2005


Dijous 10 Febrer 2005 04:53, en/na Matthew Thomas (<Matthew Thomas 
<mpt at myrealbox.com>>) va escriure:
>>Re: Some suggestion of hoary snapshot install
>
> On 9 Feb, 2005, at 9:25 PM, azz wrote:
> > ...
> > "This should include a sentence warning the user that opting to
> > download from the Internet will require more time, and is not
> > recommended for slower connection speeds."
> >
> > For users with a limited disk space, downloading a lot of updates will
> > also surpass the minimum reported 1.8gig disk space needed.  Maybe
> > there should be a warning about his too.
> > ...
>
> It would be impolite for the installer to offer vague warnings about
> things when it can work out the details itself. First, find out how big
> the updates are going to be, and if there's not enough disk space,
> explain why they won't be done.

In the installation process, we can't choose it. At least in my case, when I 
said "yes" to the question and I rebooted, ubuntu automatically downloaded 
all the package for update the system. It did not ask me.

Perhaps some user understand (as me) that internet connection will be used 
when user manually updates the system, not that ubuntu do that (update the 
system) automatically when reboot is done.

For this reason, I suggest you a warning after reboot.

Matt Zimmerman wrote:
>> 2) Can you put a warning after the first stage of installation ends that 
when 
>> the net download begins it spends more time. A normal user that say yes to 
>> use internet connection for downloading packages does not know that it 
could 
>> be during so long. It could be good to warn it. So a warning screen just 
>> before start downloading I think it were the ideal.

>I agree that a more informative dialog is justified, but the existing one
>should be improved, rather than adding another.  The current message is:

>_Description: Download software from the Internet?
> Ubuntu provides additional software and timely security updates via the
> Internet. These updates may be tracked each time you upgrade your system.
> If you have a connection to the Internet, this is generally a good idea.

>This should include a sentence warning the user that opting to download from
>the Internet will require more time, and is not recommended for slower
>connection speeds.

Yes. It could be by this way. Why not?. Maybe it were interesting to thinking 
about:

- we could select if, after reboot, ubuntu has to update system or not (wait 
until we do it manually (e.g. with synaptic))?
- how to warn to users that if they choose "yes" to use internet connection 
(and ubuntu updates automatically after update without any more option; if 
there were another option, an apropiate dialog were better), the amount of 
information that ubuntu download is very hugh in some cases.

[Perhaps a comment like:
_Description: Download software from the Internet?
 Ubuntu provides additional software and timely security updates via the
 Internet. These updates may be tracked each time you upgrade your system.
 If you have a connection to the Internet, this is generally a good idea.

_Adding:
If you say "yes" here, after reboot, ubuntu downloads the update software, 
fact that implies in many cases more time waiting for you

(or something similar)
]

Well, do what do you think?


Thanks for answering,
Xan.




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