Reasons for ikeeping an MTA
punkrockguy318 at comcast.net
Fri Dec 23 01:50:49 GMT 2005
Phillip Susi wrote:
> I agree that if you are going to get email, it should be important,
> and dangling man symlinks aren't really important.
> I just noticed today that the server at work I have running ubuntu got
> postfix installed somehow... it may have been when I installed mysql.
> I had no idea until today that my normal user on this server had a 100
> MB mail spool in /var/mail. This was mostly due to the output of my
> nightly backup script because I was having tar backup based on the
> mtime, and it was printing the name of every file that it did NOT back
> up because its mtime was old.
> I guess if I had not noticed this, all this useless information would
> have just continued to fill up /var/mail. That's not very good. Also
> I'm wondering why all mail to root is being delivered to my normal
> user? For that matter, why was it in /var/mail and not ~/Mail? I
> seem to remember that being the place mail was delivered back in the day.
> Anyhow, if an MTA is installed, I think there should be some kind of
> notification on the desktop when you get local email. As it was it
> took me a while just to be able to read the mail. I used to use pine
> back in the day, but that isn't available, so I finally installed mutt
> and gave it a try. I also seem to remember that you'd periodically
> get a message on your tty when you had email, but this never happened
> Scott J. Henson wrote:
>> I concider myself an advanced user(I manage > 200 Ubuntu systems for
>> a university computer science department) and I regularly ignore
>> these emails on my desktop system at home. I know they are there,
>> but I don't care cause I know that in the default install cron will
>> never tell me anything I really need to care about. As for
>> catostrophic events like hard drive failures, I told mdadm( in
>> /etc/default) to email my real address and I installed smartd and
>> told it to send the email to my real address as well. I would much
>> rather both of these connect to my session and tell me about it there
>> as I'm more likely to see it faster.
>> Also, whenever I build a system by hand for my personal use, I remove
>> postfix and install ssmtp cause I don't need a full mta installed and
>> running. I manage a mail server at work, I don't need to be managing
>> one at home. Please don't put postfix back in by default. If Ubuntu
>> includes any mta, please make it something simple like ssmtp or
>> esmtp. I would much prefer a hacked ssmtp like I said above. That
>> or the Ubuntu install should ask the user for an email address to
>> send stuff to. I am sure a much greater proportion of users will
>> never user, or know hot to use, mailx or even care unless the message
>> shows up in their main account. And if you are sending a message to
>> a user's mail account, please make sure it matters. Dangling
>> symlinks for some man pages are not important. The only reason my
>> system should be emailing me is to tell me its on fire or something
>> equally dire.
>> Id just like to point out that these are just my opinions and I don't
>> really expect Ubuntu to bow to them and do exactly what I am saying.
>> If they don't I will simply customize my system and keep going
>> without losing any sleep about it.
There needs to be some easy way of alerting the administrator of some
things that have been done using mail:
Failed login attemps (remote and local)
Important cron scripts failing.
What's the objection of a leightweight mta being installed by default?
Evolution and thunderbird on the admin's account could be set by default
to receive local mail.
Even if there's an objection to a mta, why not use the notifications
that have been used for postinst stuff like required reboots?
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