On spatial file management [Was: planet gnome comment]

Andy Fitzsimon andyfitz at gmail.com
Mon Aug 29 23:28:37 CDT 2005


Browse mode...

Is better than chocolate.

I'm so glad this could be the default. It's finally ready again.


On 8/30/05, Jeff Waugh <jeff.waugh at ubuntu.com> wrote:
> 
> <quote who="George Farris">
> 
> > > From Planet GNOME
> > >
> > > I installed Ubuntu's unstable Breezy again, after taking a break due 
> to
> > > the painful breakage in the last few weeks. It looks like it will
> > > default to the nasty Browse Mode in Nautilus instead of the regular
> > > usable (hierarchical) spatial mode. I'm so deeply disappointed,
> > > disheartened, and discouraged.
> >
> > I must concur. With all the great work that went into Nautilus, would it
> > not make sense to keep the spacial mode by default?
> 
> Well, ignoring Murray's ridiculous tone (which we often have to do), 
> here's
> why we're not going with spatial in Ubuntu:
> 
> 1) Spatial scares a lot of people off through its core behaviour. Every
> time someone asks me, "Why are all these windows all over the screen?" I
> know that we've failed to provide a user experience that doesn't interrupt
> their train of thought. It's not immersive. In some cases, yes, it does 
> not
> reflect their expectations (Windows, OS X, etc), but we tend to get this
> reaction from most users of any level of experience. The filesystem is a
> hard thing to understand in the first place, so building the experience
> around providing a spatial familiarity with an intellectually distant idea
> seems... well, it's very hard to do and be immersive at the same time. :-)
> 
> 2) We tried the close-behind thing, at the request of sabdfl. It was even
> worse, because then it wasn't just windows all over the screen in terms of
> location, it was suddenly windows dancing all over the screen for 
> seemingly
> no reason or connection to each other. People asked, "Why are these 
> windows
> all over the screen?" as well as "Why are all my windows moving around the
> screen?" It was a double-whammy. It also offended upstream, and most users
> (and connoisseurs!) of the spatial file manager.
> 
> 3) The browser mode has been vastly improved in GNOME 2.12. If there was
> ever a time to dive in with it as default, it's now. Personally, I thought
> it was appropriate to use browse mode by default back when we were putting
> Warty together, but wasn't strongly committed to it due to the quality of
> the browser mode at the time. Now it rocks much harder.
> 
> 4) The spatial feature (unmolested from upstream's definition) still 
> exists
> in Nautilus. As advanced users who love the feature, we know how to turn 
> it
> on, and we can do it any time. Go for it. :-)
> 
> - Jeff
> 
> --
> EuroOSCON: October 17th-20th http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/
> 
> "I came for the quality, but I stayed for the freedom." - Sean Neakums
> 
> --
> ubuntu-devel mailing list
> ubuntu-devel at lists.ubuntu.com
> http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/attachments/20050830/fff2b1c2/attachment.htm


More information about the ubuntu-devel mailing list