Browse mode... Is better than chocolate. I'm so glad this could be the default. It's finally ready again. <div> On 8/30/05, Jeff Waugh <<a href="mailto:jeff.waugh@ubuntu.com">jeff.waugh@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <quote who="George Farris"> > > From Planet GNOME > > > > I installed Ubuntu's unstable Breezy again, after taking a break due to > > the painful breakage in the last few weeks. It looks like it will > > default to the nasty Browse Mode in Nautilus instead of the regular > > usable (hierarchical) spatial mode. I'm so deeply disappointed, > > disheartened, and discouraged. > > I must concur. With all the great work that went into Nautilus, would it > not make sense to keep the spacial mode by default? Well, ignoring Murray's ridiculous tone (which we often have to do), here's why we're not going with spatial in Ubuntu: 1) Spatial scares a lot of people off through its core behaviour. Every time someone asks me, "Why are all these windows all over the screen?" I know that we've failed to provide a user experience that doesn't interrupt their train of thought. It's not immersive. In some cases, yes, it does not reflect their expectations (Windows, OS X, etc), but we tend to get this reaction from most users of any level of experience. The filesystem is a hard thing to understand in the first place, so building the experience around providing a spatial familiarity with an intellectually distant idea seems... well, it's very hard to do and be immersive at the same time. :-) 2) We tried the close-behind thing, at the request of sabdfl. It was even worse, because then it wasn't just windows all over the screen in terms of location, it was suddenly windows dancing all over the screen for seemingly no reason or connection to each other. People asked, "Why are these windows all over the screen?" as well as "Why are all my windows moving around the screen?" It was a double-whammy. It also offended upstream, and most users (and connoisseurs!) of the spatial file manager. 3) The browser mode has been vastly improved in GNOME 2.12. If there was ever a time to dive in with it as default, it's now. Personally, I thought it was appropriate to use browse mode by default back when we were putting Warty together, but wasn't strongly committed to it due to the quality of the browser mode at the time. Now it rocks much harder. 4) The spatial feature (unmolested from upstream's definition) still exists in Nautilus. As advanced users who love the feature, we know how to turn it on, and we can do it any time. Go for it. :-) - Jeff -- EuroOSCON: October 17th-20th    <a href="http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/"> http://conferences.oreillynet.com/eurooscon/</a>    "I came for the quality, but I stayed for the freedom." - Sean Neakums -- ubuntu-devel mailing list <a href="mailto:ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com"> ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com</a> <a href="http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel">http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel</a> </blockquote></div>