Some critics about Ubuntu

[Rick Rocker]

> > 2) The installation: It was easy. It was too easy. It was so easy that I
> > thought while my comp was working hard with selecting and installing
> > packages that I missed to answer a question of the installer right. The
> > installer went to install a big bunch of packages without telling me what
> > has to be installed. And without giving me the selection process. Hey
> > guys, where is tasksel in Ubuntu? Why didn't you make the selection finer
> > for tasksel and give the user many possibilities to install his machine?
> > Something like: only console, with X11, only console with dev tools, with
> > X11 and dev tools and so on...There are many thinkable possibilities.
> 
> You can type 'custom' at the installer boot prompt to just install the base
> system, but we do not provide package selection in the installer at all. We
> feel it is better to install a satisfyingly equipped desktop (or base)
> system, and provide great tools within that system. The desktop install is
> not overwhelmingly large, and does not include wildly irrelevant software.

That`s right. And I read about the custom install at the "help page" of the
installer. 
So, if you are not going to make package selection then please give a report
page or something like that just before the computer is going to make the
installations so that the (new) user knows what the comp is going to do.
I am a experienced Debian user now, but nevertheless I was "shocked" as
my comp began to work hard ;-)

> > 3) "Professional" Services from the start up: So I went through the
> > installation (which was not hard as I told already) and I booted into
> > Ubuntu. What did my eyes see? From the install up there were services like
> > LVM and RAID configured and started. Please disable these things for the
> > normal install. Because there are many people who install on low profile
> > machines as I did it and they didn't need LVM,RAID AND the people who need
> > these things are experienced enough to make the settings later.
> 
> If your system doesn't actively use these features, the start up scripts do
> essentially nothing. It is not a significant cost to include or run the
> software, and it means we have better system and hardware support for these
> kinds of requirements.

As a side question: Is it unpossible to include the Knoppix hardware detection routine
into Ubuntu. Things like my problem above hit me _not_ only on Knoppix where all
my diverse HW is rightly detected and configured.

> > 5) Gnome: I don't know why, but the settings for the login-screen and the
> > desktop was different for me. The login-screen was at "12xx x 10xx" and
> > the destop was "1024x768" right after the installation. Maybe you have to
> > look after the packages to make a litte patch.
> 
> Strange, that generally only happens when the GNOME RandR stuff is set by
> the user. It should not happen on first log in. Have you been able to
> reproduce this?

I am going to make a custom install later today. So I will look if it is reproducible.
And as my comp didn`t asked me anything while install I couldn`t set X11 or
RandR (what that ever is).

> Thanks, I'm sure someone else will answer your other suggestions. :-)
> 
> - Jeff
Thanks. 

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