Default japanese font for Ubuntu 14.04 is wrong

jitsumi at gmail.com jitsumi at gmail.com
Wed Dec 24 16:23:43 UTC 2014


So, if i understand correctly, the problem is that japanese and chinese
characters are sharing the same code,
and so the system cannot know if we want to display japanese or chinese, so
by default, it renders chinese.
Is that correct? (If so, an option "rendering asian character in
japanese/chinese/etc..." for non asian system would be nice i guess)

I will try your your solution.

Thanks !

On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <gunnarhj at ubuntu.com>
wrote:

> On 2014-12-23 14:33, jitsumi at gmail.com wrote:
> > On 2014-11-11 22:27, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote:
> >> On a fresh non-Japanese install, the package fonts-takao-pgothic is
> >> available. However, so is the package fonts-droid, and since the
> >> "Droid Sans Fallback" font is kind of 'featured', it probably takes
> >> precedence over "TakaoPGothic" for rendering Japanese contents.
> >
> > Yes, I think it's exactly the problem I have. The "Droid  Sans Fallback"
> > display the kanjis in a very weird way. The "TakaoPGothic" is rendering
> the
> > kanjis correctly. (Still, I don't think it is perfect, because, it
> > render them with big
> > space between them). The package ttf-vlgothic (apprently renamed
> > fonts-vlgothic)
> > was installing a very good font. But i don't know the name of this font,
> > so i can not
> > check.
> >
> > What I mean by "default" font, it is if yes or not the standard shape
> > and number of the strokes
> > in a kanji are respected. If you compar these kanjis (究 乗 降 語 換 違
> > 雑 誌) rendered in "Droid  Sans Fallback"
> > and in "TakaoPGothic" you will see many small differences. But this
> > differences are actually huge, a japanese person
> > will judge that the kanji is written wrongly.
> >
> > To Gunnar Hjalmarsson and Mitsuya Shibata
> >
> > I would like to have correct rendering of japanese kcharacters without
> > having my full system in Japanese (I'm learning Japanese, but I don't
> > yet understand it)
>
> As long as fonts-droid is used for Chinese in the way it is, I can't
> think of a default configuration right now which would achieve that.
> Some kind of personal configuration changes will be needed.
>
> > Also, a solution was given to me by Kazushi on askubuntu.com
> > <http://askubuntu.com> there
> >
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/536462/defautl-kanji-japanese-font-wrong-in-ubuntu-14-04-how-to-change-it/537789#537789
> > (His answer about copying 69-language-selector-ja-jp.conf
> > <
> https://github.com/wzssyqa/language-selector-im-config/blob/master/fontconfig/69-language-selector-ja-jp.conf
> >)
>
> Well, that Ask Ubuntu answer includes a couple of misconceptions, but it
> indeed provides a couple of solutions.
>
> I think that the single step which made fonts-droid interfere with
> TakaoPGothic (or other Japanese fonts) was the introduction of
> 65-droid-sans-fallback.conf as a fix of https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227034
> Hence another possible solution (provided that you don't care too much
> about Chinese rendering) might be to either disable that fontconfig file
> by removing the symlink:
>
> sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fallback.conf
>
> or remove the whole fonts-droid package:
>
> sudo apt-get purge fonts-droid
>
> (untested)
>
> --
> Gunnar Hjalmarsson
> https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj
>
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