<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>So, if i understand correctly, the problem is that japanese and chinese characters are sharing the same code, and so the system cannot know if we want to display japanese or chinese, so by default, it renders chinese. </div>Is that correct? (If so, an option "rendering asian character in japanese/chinese/etc..." for non asian system would be nice i guess) </div>I will try your your solution. </div>Thanks ! </div><div class="gmail_extra"> <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 5:27 PM, Gunnar Hjalmarsson <<a href="mailto:gunnarhj@ubuntu.com" target="_blank">gunnarhj@ubuntu.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On 2014-12-23 14:33, <a href="mailto:jitsumi@gmail.com">jitsumi@gmail.com</a> wrote: > On 2014-11-11 22:27, Gunnar Hjalmarsson wrote: >> On a fresh non-Japanese install, the package fonts-takao-pgothic is >> available. However, so is the package fonts-droid, and since the >> "Droid Sans Fallback" font is kind of 'featured', it probably takes >> precedence over "TakaoPGothic" for rendering Japanese contents. > > Yes, I think it's exactly the problem I have. The "Droid Sans Fallback" > display the kanjis in a very weird way. The "TakaoPGothic" is rendering the > kanjis correctly. (Still, I don't think it is perfect, because, it > render them with big > space between them). The package ttf-vlgothic (apprently renamed > fonts-vlgothic) > was installing a very good font. But i don't know the name of this font, > so i can not > check. > > What I mean by "default" font, it is if yes or not the standard shape > and number of the strokes > in a kanji are respected. If you compar these kanjis (究乗降語換違 > 雑誌) rendered in "Droid Sans Fallback" > and in "TakaoPGothic" you will see many small differences. But this > differences are actually huge, a japanese person > will judge that the kanji is written wrongly. > > To Gunnar Hjalmarsson and Mitsuya Shibata > > I would like to have correct rendering of japanese kcharacters without > having my full system in Japanese (I'm learning Japanese, but I don't > yet understand it) As long as fonts-droid is used for Chinese in the way it is, I can't think of a default configuration right now which would achieve that. Some kind of personal configuration changes will be needed. > Also, a solution was given to me by Kazushi on <a href="http://askubuntu.com" target="_blank">askubuntu.com</a> > <<a href="http://askubuntu.com" target="_blank">http://askubuntu.com</a>> there > <a href="http://askubuntu.com/questions/536462/defautl-kanji-japanese-font-wrong-in-ubuntu-14-04-how-to-change-it/537789#537789" target="_blank">http://askubuntu.com/questions/536462/defautl-kanji-japanese-font-wrong-in-ubuntu-14-04-how-to-change-it/537789#537789</a> > (His answer about copying 69-language-selector-ja-jp.conf > <<a href="https://github.com/wzssyqa/language-selector-im-config/blob/master/fontconfig/69-language-selector-ja-jp.conf" target="_blank">https://github.com/wzssyqa/language-selector-im-config/blob/master/fontconfig/69-language-selector-ja-jp.conf</a>>) Well, that Ask Ubuntu answer includes a couple of misconceptions, but it indeed provides a couple of solutions. I think that the single step which made fonts-droid interfere with TakaoPGothic (or other Japanese fonts) was the introduction of 65-droid-sans-fallback.conf as a fix of <a href="https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227034" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227034</a> Hence another possible solution (provided that you don't care too much about Chinese rendering) might be to either disable that fontconfig file by removing the symlink: sudo rm /etc/fonts/conf.d/65-droid-sans-fallback.conf or remove the whole fonts-droid package: sudo apt-get purge fonts-droid (untested) <div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"> -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson <a href="https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj" target="_blank">https://launchpad.net/~gunnarhj</a> </div></div></blockquote></div> </div>