Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Feedback and Bug App

Tue Dec 16 20:13:50 UTC 2014

I would gladly draw up a more detailed outline. Give me a few days and I will do some sketches with annotations etc. to show what I am proposing.

By the way, I don’t want Ubuntu to become Windows and I am happy that it is not. There are good reasons why Ubuntu is my OS of choice for all my serious computing and why I am trying to help improve it. On the other hand I strongly believe in learning from ones competition and peers and in that sense I must disagree with you: Ubuntu has to be compared to Windows and Mac OS X because, if there is something on a different platform that feels “better” than a comparable experience on Ubuntu, we should be asking us why that is and if that is perhaps something we can adapt for us without compromising what Ubuntu stands for and what it is trying to achieve. 

Just my 2 cents.

I will be back in a few days with more Information.

Alex

From: Saqman2060
Sent: ‎Tuesday‎, ‎December‎ ‎16‎, ‎2014 ‎12‎:‎10‎ ‎AM
To: Alexander Langanke

Try not to compare Ubuntu with windows. Ubuntu is not trying to be windows. If your ideas can improve end-user feedback, I will support it. Is it possible to show us an outline of this service you envisioned?

From: Alexander Langanke
Sent: ‎12/‎15/‎2014 5:55 PM
To: Nicholas Skaggs; ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com; ubuntu-phone at lists.launchpad.net
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Feedback and Bug App

I have taken a look at ubuntu c++ apps and must say I am struggeling a Bit. As I said my c++ skills are not that advanced. I have done a project in c++ and qt 2 years ago and found that to be doable at the time. Am I correct that in Ubuntu the actual c++ code is done via plugins/extensions and not directly in the "normal" code? I really have to figure out app programming in general as I normally do web coding mostly from scratch (as in coding every file myself) and am not used to having so many different files already setup at the beginning of the project.

Is your feedback app code available somewhere for me to take a look at? Does it use qml + plugin/c++ or just pure qml?

I definitely want to learn to code native Ubuntu Apps are there any good intros on the basics of app programming beyond developer.ubuntu.com or any articles you would recommend from there?

The app I am thinking of would not only allow a user to give feedback but also allow the developers (core apps, system and others as opt-in) to post "missions". Missions would be new things the developers have landed and want feedback on. This would highlight specific new features and give developers a chance to get lots of feedback concerning the feature they are interested in, does it work as expected, do people like the Design etc.
We could also include something like an "announcements" Blog where the core developers could inform those using the development release.

I think bug reporting should remain separate from this.

This is the general idea and very much inline with what Windows is doing.

Love to hear from you.

Alex

On Mon, Dec 15, 2014, 23:26 Nicholas Skaggs <nicholas.skaggs at canonical.com> wrote:

On 12/12/2014 05:22 PM, Alexander Langanke wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> I am not sure if this is the appropriate place to ask, please be so
> kind to redirect me if it isn't.
>
> I recently installed the Windows 10 technical preview on my windows
> machine and have played around with OS X Betas in the past and really
> liked the feedback apps they both have and the insider hub that
> windows 10 recently recieved.
>
> Why don't we build something similar for Ubuntu? We have apport as a
> bug info collecting tool with no real GUI and no feedback tool
> whatsoever (that I am aware of). The Ubuntu Test Cases could get some
> more stagetime as well.
>
If you search for 'feedback' in the store you will find a simple qml app
I made that allows you to submit feedback at least. It's primary purpose
was for beta testing and the feedback is collated into a simple form.
The UI might at least prompt some thoughts. In addition, look for and
check out the checkbox application in the store. These two are the
closest apps I can think of that align with what you are after. That
said, automatic crash reporting is occurring and some others can jump in
and talk more about that than I can.
>
> Do plans for something like this exist? If not, and you deem this a
> not useless/obsolete idea, what would be the preferred way to start? A
> native App or a web app that integrates the relevant launchpad sites
> or perhaps a scope?
>
Is the goal of the feedback application to provide bug reports? Report
on usability issues? Prompt for manual tests? All of the above? I'm
certainly keen to hear ideas on any of these types of tools, but I want
to be clear what you are trying to solve. Things get murky quite quickly
and it makes it hard to nail down what problem you want to solve.
>
> What do you think?
>
I love the enthusiasm and willingness to help fill the void :-)
>
> I am a beginner in c++ but have some skills and experience in python,
> php and HTML and would be willing to work on this if I can get a
> little guidance here and there.
>
I would suggest / surmise an app like this would be c++ with a qml frontend.

Nicholas
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