[nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

[AG Restringere]

> If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a
> support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software,
has no
> support "obligation".

No, that's not it, let's not confuse the issue, the commercial side and
Canonical has nothing do with what I'm currently advocating. I never
mentioned Canonical because I was distinguishing this from the commercial
side of things.  This is purely a community support and engineering
best-practices issue, not a commercial issue. The Linux Kernel guys have no
commercial contracts with us but they embrace "best practices" and use the
best recommendations to make sure they provide the best support for the
Kernel. It's not commercial it's a community support obligation and
engineering best-practices.

This is the basis for the open-source Linux community, people helping each
other to obtain the best possible systems.  It's also the purpose of
Ubuntu, "I am because of who we all are" and "Linux for human beings".  To
suggest that we need commercial contracts just to get proper device support
for very mainstream and common graphics cards defeats the whole purpose of
open-source Linux distributions, you might as well get an Apple Mac or
Windows computer, there's no point to it.  It's like saying we need a
commercial contract with the Linux Foundation just to get support for Intel
and AMD CPU's, it's absurd.


On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu at kitterman.com>wrote:

> If you have a support contract with Canonical, then maybe Canonical has a
> support obligation, but Ubuntu, in particular for proprietary software,
> has no
> support "obligation".
>
> Scott K
>
> On Friday, September 06, 2013 15:14:55 AG Restringere wrote:
> > It's very simple:
> >
> > Nvidia "certifies" a driver in the "long lived branch", when it releases
> a
> > new stable driver it recommends every Linux user to install that driver
> > immediately for the best experience.  Ubuntu has a support obligation
> make
> > the latest most up-to-date "certified" drivers available to all users of
> > currently supported versions especially 12.04 LTS, 13.04 and 13.10.  If
> > Ubuntu publishes out-of-date drivers and doesn't replace them when
> there's
> > a newer one available it's a major problem.  Graphics drivers, second to
> > the Linux Kernel itself and networking/wifi drivers, are the most
> important
> > drivers on a desktop system, they require a very consistent and high
> level
> > of maintenance to keep a system in good working order.
> >
> > *Linux x86/IA32*
> > Latest Long Lived Branch version:
> > 319.49<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-319.49-driver.html>
> > <--
> > this is the STABLE driver, anything before this is out-of-date
> > Latest Short Lived Branch version:
> > 325.15<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-325.15-driver.html>
> > <--
> > this is the BETA driver, for testing purposes
> > Latest Legacy GPU version (304.xx series):
> > 304.108<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-304.108-driver.html>
> > <--
> > this is for legacy users, those with old graphics cards
> > Latest Legacy GPU version (71.86.xx series):
> > 71.86.15<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-71.86.15-driver.htm
> > l> <--
> > these are all other legacy drivers for even older cards
> > Latest Legacy GPU version (96.43.xx series):
> > 96.43.23<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-96.43.23-driver.htm
> > l> <--
> > Latest Legacy GPU version (173.14.xx series):
> > 173.14.37<
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-ia32-173.14.37-driver.h
> > tml> <--
> >
> > http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
> wrote:
> > > On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro
> > >
> > > <p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yes, that is what I was trying to say.
> > > > They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying
> about
> > >
> > > it.
> > >
> > > I'm out of this one, the straw man just came out.
> > >
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