[nvidia-graphics-drivers] frustration with slow Nvidia drivers release schedule

Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com
Fri Sep 6 18:50:56 UTC 2013


2013/9/6 Sergio Schvezov <sergio.schvezov at canonical.com>

> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro <
> p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro
>>> <p.oliveira.castro at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell <jordon at envygeeks.com>
>>> >>
>>> >> my suggestion is your realize the real facts
>>> >> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job
>>> >> to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro
>>> >> to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > That's a lie.
>>> > On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very
>>> > close to it).
>>>
>>> Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even
>>> remember properly if they carry it.)  I'll let you have that so I
>>> don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of
>>> stated here:
>>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers
>>> -- https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers  I'm no Fedora or
>>> OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that
>>> it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync
>>> which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify.
>>> Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody
>>> else lied?  I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly
>>> mention Arch.
>>>
>>> > It's silly to think that a distro cannot  keep up like that, many
>>> already
>>> > do, and they work pretty well.
>>>
>>> Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware
>>> vendor and give you the latest drivers?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some
>> others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word "many" for more
>> then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say "no OS
>> do this".
>>
>> The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I
>> think you haven't got that.
>> It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your
>> system. It should be easy to navigate.
>>
>> Everything should be easy.
>>
>> That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn
>> that from them.
>> Average user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know
>> what is a driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU
>> drivers do the job and make users happier to use their desktops.
>>
>
> Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor
> libraries, they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be
> responsible for that.
>

Yes, that is what I was trying to say.
They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it.
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