<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/6 Sergio Schvezov <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sergio.schvezov@canonical.com" target="_blank">sergio.schvezov@canonical.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:p.oliveira.castro@gmail.com" target="_blank">p.oliveira.castro@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div><div class="gmail_quote">2013/9/6 Jordon Bedwell <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jordon@envygeeks.com" target="_blank">jordon@envygeeks.com</a>></span><br>
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<div>On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro<br>
<<a href="mailto:p.oliveira.castro@gmail.com" target="_blank">p.oliveira.castro@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> 2013/9/2 Jordon Bedwell <<a href="mailto:jordon@envygeeks.com" target="_blank">jordon@envygeeks.com</a>><br>
>><br>
>> my suggestion is your realize the real facts<br>
>> that all operating systems provide outdated drivers and it's your job<br>
>> to update them if you want the latest drivers and to expect the distro<br>
>> to be able to keep up like that is silly to say the least.<br>
><br>
><br>
> That's a lie.<br>
> On many other linux distro the drivers are in sync to upstream (or very<br>
> close to it).<br>
<br>
</div>Sure it is if you consider RPMFusion official (and I don't even<br>
remember properly if they carry it.) I'll let you have that so I<br>
don't have to explain known facts like the ones that are kind of<br>
stated here: <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Forbidden_items?rd=ForbiddenItems#NVIDIA_Proprietary_Graphics_Drivers</a><br>
-- <a href="https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers" target="_blank">https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers</a> I'm no Fedora or<br>
OpenSuse user so I'll take those as facts that pretty much imply that<br>
it would be impossible for them to be in sync or close to in sync<br>
which leaves Arch and all the others that I'm not willing to verify.<br>
Did you pull this magic metric only from Arch and then claim somebody<br>
else lied? I only assume to ask that question because you did briefly<br>
mention Arch.<br>
<div><br>
> It's silly to think that a distro cannot keep up like that, many already<br>
> do, and they work pretty well.<br>
<br>
</div>Almost as silly as you thinking it's Ubuntu's job to be your hardware<br>
vendor and give you the latest drivers?<br>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div><div><div><div><div><div>Yes, I was talking about Arch and all Arch based distros (and some others), not Fedora or openSuSE. For me, using the word "many" for more then 3 things is not a lie. A lie is to ignore this distros and say "no OS do this".<br>
<br></div>The OS-for-human-beings job is to make things easy for human beings. I think you haven't got that.<br></div>It's should be easy to be up-to-date. It should be easy to upgrade your system. It should be easy to navigate.<br>
<br></div>Everything should be easy.<br><br></div>That's what successful mobile platforms are doing now and we must learn that from them.<br></div>Average
user don't even know what compile means. They don't even know what is a
driver. They only want a faster PC, and delivering new GPU drivers do
the job and make users happier to use their desktops.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><div>Average users don't really care if they are on the latest vendor libraries, they just want it to work and the OS/distro should be responsible for that.<br>
</div></div></div></div>
</blockquote></div><br><div>Yes, that is what I was trying to say.<br></div>They want it work and to be as fast as it can be, without worrying about it.<br></div></div>