Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?

[Alan Jhonn Aguiar Schwyn]

> Date: Tue, 9 Apr 2013 11:29:04 -0400
> From: brettcornwall at lavabit.com
> To: dmitrij.ledkov at ubuntu.com; ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: Aptitude installed by default on 13.10?
> 
> On 04/09/2013 08:21 AM, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> <snip>
> > Maybe I was not very explicit - all console applications are "niche"
> > on the Ubuntu (gui) Desktop. And vice versa, gui-desktop applications
> > are nice on the Ubuntu (console) Server.
> >
> > We have aptitude seeded where console is the default interface.
> >
> > On ubuntu-desktop the default interface is unity with preferred
> > package management using:
> > - dash application scope
> > - software updater
> > - software center
> >
> > Depending on the use-case/goal one uses one or combination of above.
> >
> I don't understand - why don't we just remove apt-get and make users 
> install via the software center? Why not add-apt-repository, scp, top? 
> My suggestion was just to add aptitude because it's the recommended 
> package-management tool from the community that basically makes all the 
> packages possible for this project.
> 
> So the drawbacks of including aptitude seem to be:
> 
> 1) It takes up 2 MB of space
2 mb more no makes the difference..
> 2) Dependency resolution might have to actually be tested (instead of 
> making every stupid package just depend on ubuntu-desktop or xorg?). ;)
+1
> 
> > On Ubuntu Desktop we want to discourage usage of command line =) as
> > there is no need for that for non-developers.
> 
> I see, so an OS for 'everyone' shouldn't even have gnome-terminal 
> installed at all - make people switch to a VT (and why hasn't that been 
> disabled by default? I'd bet my life savings that every user has 
> accidentally hit CTRL+ALT+F1 at least once on their Ubuntu use - now 
> THAT'S an issue to really actively prevent). There are some strange 
> priorities set based on these phobias. Again, I'm not suggesting an 
> arbitrary specialized tool like vim/emacs get included, I'm suggesting 
> the addition of the endorsed CLI package management tool from the Debian 
> project be included. So if the project were to (understandably) want to 
> include only one CLI tool to use, why not aptitude? As stated, it's 
> already officially supported on ubuntu-server, why not include it on 
> ubuntu-desktop and drop apt-get to reduce a package to have to 
> officially support?
> 
> And who said I was a developer? I'd only be so lucky to be able to claim 
> that title.
> 
> 
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