Dump Google?

Robert Holtzman holtzm at cox.net
Sat Sep 11 22:51:24 UTC 2010

On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 04:17:06PM -0600, Michael Loftis wrote:
> --On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman 
> <holtzm at cox.net> wrote:


> >
> > Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If you
> > are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at China's
> > whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their stated
> > support of the free flow of information. Only the lazy or those who are
> > uninformed or lack principals use Google....and yes, I do use another
> > search engine.
> Wow you really don't pay any attention to reality do you?
> Google did it's best NOT to bend to China.  But in order to maintain any 
> "official" presence at all in China they had to make available a "Chinese 
> censorship approved" version of Google search.  They did their best to 
> legally maintain the full search view for China.

Up until the time the PRC threatened not to renew their license. Then
they dropped their pants and bent over.

> So now there's the 
> limited Chinese censored site, but a simple click will get you the 
> unfiltered version still in most cases.

That came as a surprise to me. I remember reading that the PRC made them
eliminate the HK link.

> In the cases that it doesn't there 
> are well documented work arounds using proxies.
> Quit criminalizing/blaming/whatever Google for the *CHINESE GOVERNMENTS* 
> shortcomings and requirements.

I didn't criminalize them but my statement stands. They are just as
unprincipled as any other avaricious corporation, their self serving
protestations not withstanding. 

Bob Holtzman
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