Dump Google?
Michael Loftis
mloftis at wgops.com
Sat Sep 11 22:17:06 UTC 2010
--On Saturday, September 11, 2010 12:06 PM -0700 Robert Holtzman
<holtzm at cox.net> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 11, 2010 at 05:50:05AM +0000, Harry Strongburg wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 07:58:29PM -0700, Jordan wrote:
>> > Why not drop Google and go for a more private search engine?
>>
>> Yes, let's suggest for Ubuntu users use an obscure search engine,
>> because they are worried someone at Google Inc may be knowing what kind
>> of searches they do. Anyone who is concerned about Google would already
>> use a different search engine. Ubuntu does not force you to use Google.
>>
>> I highly doubt Google or "Big Brother" would care what you search. If
>> "Big Brother" cared enough about you, they could just sniff all your
>> traffic ISP-side. If you are searching for something illegal or
>> incriminating, you're probably going to get in trouble, no matter if you
>> use Google, or $some_random_foreign_search_engine. I am not implying
>> that you are searching anything illegal, but it's pretty crazy to care
>> about where your search queries go (especially when they are being sent
>> in plaintext across the Internet).
>
> Google's archiving all searches isn't the only reason to dump it. If you
> are willing to use a search engine that censors web sites at China's
> whim go right ahead. Google puts their profit ahead of their stated
> support of the free flow of information. Only the lazy or those who are
> uninformed or lack principals use Google....and yes, I do use another
> search engine.
Wow you really don't pay any attention to reality do you?
Google did it's best NOT to bend to China. But in order to maintain any
"official" presence at all in China they had to make available a "Chinese
censorship approved" version of Google search. They did their best to
legally maintain the full search view for China. So now there's the
limited Chinese censored site, but a simple click will get you the
unfiltered version still in most cases. In the cases that it doesn't there
are well documented work arounds using proxies.
Quit criminalizing/blaming/whatever Google for the *CHINESE GOVERNMENTS*
shortcomings and requirements.
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