Removal of PulseAudio from Ubuntu

[Dmitrijs Ledkovs]

On 6 May 2010 01:49, Ryan Oram <ryan at infinityos.net> wrote:
> How many users actually use Bluetooth headsets with their computers or
> mute their browsers?
>

This one time in bandcamp when you fool around with a cool cellphone accessories

> I feel that being able to play games without having to edit text files
> or install alternate packages is much important to the average user
> then the above features.
>

Generalisation..... I know plenty of people who play games and do not
know how to edit *plain* text files.

> Chances are people who want to use Bluetooth headsets and to mute
> browsers will know how to configure Linux to do so anyways.
>

I don't know how to configure Linux to do that. I use the PA sliders.
Thanks to avahi I was able to stream music to my kitchen without
editing any textfiles.

I would not be able to do this without PA.

> Thanks,
> Ryan Oram
>
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 8:09 PM, Dylan McCall <dylanmccall at gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Ryan Oram <ryan at infinityos.net> wrote:
>>> A great overview of the problems with PulseAudio:
>>> http://www.webcitation.org/5kcZfOb4l
>>>
>>> It is 2 years old, but the facts in the article above are still
>>> completely true. PulseAudio has made essentially zero progress in the
>>> last 2 years, which is why it should be abandoned.
>>
>> I fail to see how diverging from upstream Gnome and switching audio
>> systems AGAIN would solve any problems. As it is we have gained a lot
>> from PulseAudio (eg: Bluetooth audio that we can actually expect end
>> users to use), it is quite widely adopted and it is neatly integrated
>> at this point.
>>
>> Now, granted, most things (gstreamer, canberra) are flexible and have
>> (or could have) OSS4 support, but there is some significant energy
>> required to swap these kinds of components. I think energy would be
>> better spent sorting out the higher level APIs that application
>> developers are actually meant to be using. We seem to have hundreds of
>> these bouncing around, and they are all compatible with a different
>> subset of audio frameworks. We can change underlying systems all we
>> want, but those diagrams of the audio stack will still look awful
>> because of all those libraries.
>>
>> You mention PulseAudio's high latency. I haven't followed this, but
>> does anyone know what became of rtkit? Personally I've had an
>> excellent audio experience in Lucid thus far (except for that funny
>> issue with the balance slider and indicator-sound) and I believe rtkit
>> has been merged into the kernel, but I could be mistaken about whether
>> it's being used (or useful to begin with).
>>
>> Disclaimer: I'm also quite attached to positional event sounds :)
>>
>>
>> Dylan
>>
>
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