Ubuntu AppUpdate

Joao Pinto joao.pinto at getdeb.net
Thu Jul 8 22:23:17 UTC 2010

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 10:59 PM, Ryan Oram <ryanoram at trentu.ca> wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 17:45 -0400 BST, Joao Pinto
> <joao.pinto at getdeb.net> wrote:
> > Why set up another project instead of participating in GetDeb ?
> > What do you expect to achieve with "Ubuntu AppUpdate" that you can't with
> > GetDeb ?
> I believe I sent you an e-mail asking if your team wanted to
> collaborate. (I sent one to the author of Ubuntu Tweak as well)

I am sorry didn't noticed your mail prior to this one, anyway my questions

> My main concern with GetDeb is that uploading packages to your service
> doesn't seem to be a concrete or transparent process. I also would
Did you read http://wiki.getdeb.net/AutomatedBuildSystem ?
We have experienced some hosting problems on the last couple of months which
had a major impact on our availability, we expect to recover full
operationally soon.

> like to encourage developers to make their packages using
> Launchpad/PPAs as Launchpad requires all packages to be built using
> pbuilder and has a number of safety checks in place.

Our packages use sbuild (I believe the official archive also uses it), I am
not aware of safety checks applied at PPAs, can you ellaborate ?

> I feel that an official and documented process for package creation,
> testing and distribution is crucial. As such I have based the Ubuntu
> AppUpdate process on Debian's process of pushing packages from
> Unstable to Testing, while using Launchpad to make the documentation
> readily available to users.

You may have a documented process as we do for quite some time but I find
it  very unlikely that it will ever be "Official" as that requires
Canonical/Ubuntu community approval and I really don't see your project
aligned with the current official plans/projects like  the software center
opportunistic  applications, daily builds etc.

> I would be more than happy to collaborate with your team, if you guys
> are willing.

Feel free to join our team :)

> Thanks,
> Ryan

GetDeb has some objectives common to what you are proposing, it has been
successful in many aspects, failed in some others, the current team is very
small but with a long experience. I think it would be more beneficial for
the community to join instead of divide.


João Luís Marques Pinto
GetDeb Team Leader
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