HAL service scripts

[Iain Buclaw]

On 15 April 2010 10:49, Martin Pitt <martin.pitt at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> Hello Iain,
>
> Iain Buclaw [2010-04-15 10:07 +0100]:
> > I am wondering if the service scripts in the hal package will be re-added
> > before the release of Lucid?
>
> No, we don't plan to.
>
> > I can understand why they were removed (to force a change to ConsoleKit
> in
> > the mainline Ubuntu) - but leaving them out leaves us light WM users in
> the
> > dark (ie: when inserting a pendrive, and pcmanfm does not automount it).
>
> It's got nothing to do with ConsoleKit; they are removed because we
> switched over to D-BUS activation. I. e. if a program tries to talk to
> hal, and it's not running, it triggers its startup. This works fine
> for gnome-power-manager, pitivi, and KDE.
>
> We do not want to start hal by default on machines where it's not
> necessary, since it introduces an additional startup cost, and also
> causes bugs/extra power usage due to the additional device probing and
> polling.
>
>
Probably serves my ignorance on the matter, nice to know though.



> > Currently, I am forced to include it in /etc/rc.local (or I could just
> > extract the files from the package in karmic), but this shouldn't really
> > have to be the case to resort to.
>
> Right, this is just a workaround. In theory the startup of pcmanfm
> should trigger hal startup. If it doesn't, the most likely reason is
> that it is too cautious and checks if hal is running before trying to
> connect to it (that's what "lshal" is doing, and the reason why lshal
> doesn't trigger hal startup). If that's the case, just drop the check,
> and have pcmanfm connect to hal straight away (and of course check if
> that failed).
>
> Martin
>
>
>
Bingo! Got it, and submitting a patch now.

Thanks.

-- 
Iain Buclaw

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