Broken session idling/power management in Karmic

[Peteris Krisjanis]

Problem is quite simple - we don't have enough manpower to do QA. Yes,
user testing matters, but having a a) spec with basic features defined
and b) small, but mobile team who can access to some ten of PCs and
laptops with various configurations would be a next step.

Cheers,
Peter.

2009/10/28 Evan <eapache at gmail.com>:
> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 11:39 AM, George Farris <farrisg at cc.mala.bc.ca>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 09:36 +0000, Alexander H Deriziotis wrote:
>> >
>> >         Is there hope for this to be fixed in karmic?
>> >
>> > I'm no developer, but I think that's very unlikely.
>> >
>> > It seems to me your best bet would be to try and avoid using the
>> > software which breaks the idle-indicators, or if that's too much
>> > hassle, just skip Karmic altogether and hope it's fixed in Lucid.
>> >
>> > Ubuntu does ship pretty bleeding edge software provided by upstream,
>> > so regressions are to be expected. It's only a 6 month wait after all.
>> >
>> According to this logic nothing will ever get smoothed out and quite
>> frankly we're all getting a little tired of that.
>>
>> What they should do is publicly mark this distro:
>>
>> "We have just released Karmic, due to the many upstream technology
>> changes such as HAL depreciation, inclusion of Empathy, etc, etc, please
>> consider this a bleeding edge distro not meant for regular distribution.
>> Business and regular users may want to consider sticking with an older
>> release or waiting for 10.04"
>>
>> I've been using Ubuntu since Warty and I understand the logic in the
>> Linux community of "HAL isn't doing what we want, we're ripping it out
>> and replacing it".  I think that is a great thing, something we have
>> over the other OS's, but don't paint Karmic as the greatest thing since
>> sliced bread.  Take 9.10 and tune it until it "just works" and then have
>> a marketing frenzy.
>>
>> Trust me, working at the University and also running the Linux users
>> group in the area, it would be much better to point at the release and
>> say, "see this is marked as a development version, you can expect fairly
>> basic things not to work".  People are happy with that, the press is
>> happy with that, business is happy with that.
>>
>> What I would hate to see is, wonderful press release about Karmic,
>> blathering on about all the goodness, only to have people rip it apart
>> due to some fairly visible bugs.
>>
>> Lets just be up front about it and not drop any nasty surprises on
>> people.
>
> I 100% agree. I like the concept of a six-month release cycle, but if it
> means shipping with bugs of this visibility and magnitude then there is
> something wrong. If we are going to ship with bugs like this, then we cannot
> in all honesty call it a stable release. Maybe calling the 6-month releases
> 'major development milestones' would be more appropriate, and leave the
> 'stable release' moniker for LTS releases only.
>
> Just my two cents,
> Evan
>
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