Bye all - time to stop
webceo123 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 12 10:21:49 UTC 2009
On Mon, 2009-10-12 at 12:00 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote:
> Il 11/10/2009 11:52, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto:
> > Il 10/10/2009 21:16, Peteris Krisjanis ha scritto:
> >> Sorry, I can't agree more either. You don't even offer your reasoning
> >> why there is no strong reasons. For me, integrity, visual style, etc.
> >> makes it much better and welcome in Ubuntu desktop than Pidgin. And it
> >> has been a class example why we do evaluate apps and why they are
> >> given second chance if they improve as Empathy did.
> > I am pointing out that empathy at the moment is widely broken, and none
> > of the feature it promises are there. I don't think you can install
> > ubuntu on a fresh computer and be sure voice calls with empathy will
> > work at all. I don't think you can really use empathy for IRC. I don't
> > think empathy will imports accounts from pidgin in a reliable way.
> > How do I know these things, is because I tried it. When it'll be ready,
> > it will be a pleasure to use it. I am not saying distributors should
> > "resist" to change.
> > V.
> But in any case, even more important, I have to unsubscribe from this
> list. Even the above criticism could become a contribution to ubuntu. It
> may e.g. prod developers into looking at those bugs again. And I have
> decided that my contributions to ubuntu should stop.
> CC Mark Shuttleworth, because it is clear that no developers want to
> speak about this problem, so the "boss" is the only one entitled.
> This is because one thing are design issues that can be discussed, and
> eventually I would understand the reasons for those uncomfortable
> changes, and start convincing MY users that these changes are good; bugs
> can be reported, cooperation can be done in my free time, one other
> thing is to
> 1) notice that we^H^H^H you are still tricking your users into thinking
> that they google for something, whereas they really "ubuntu+google for
> 2) Notice that the solution to the problem would just be to add a link
> in that page to a relevant explanation, and that developers have
> SILENTLY refused to do that.
> 3) notice that all the persons involved (and it's extremely difficult to
> find someone who will say "yes I am responsible for that page") PROMISED
> that the issues would have been solved
> 4) notice that Mark Shuttleworth in person said that these issues would
> have been discussed
> 5) notice that all the above can be safely skipped, since in the end
> nothing changed.
> I quitted some time ago, now I make it official; I was not the most
> useful contributor anyways.
Bye and good luck, change take time, we have come a very long way since
the first Ubuntu release, but if you refuse to see that, then maybe you
are right, it's time for you to stop.
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