Bye all - time to stop

Vincenzo Ciancia ciancia at
Mon Oct 12 10:00:19 UTC 2009

Il 11/10/2009 11:52, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto:
> Il 10/10/2009 21:16, Peteris Krisjanis ha scritto:
>> Sorry, I can't agree more either. You don't even offer your reasoning
>> why there is no strong reasons. For me, integrity, visual style, etc.
>> makes it much better and welcome in Ubuntu desktop than Pidgin. And it
>> has been a class example why we do evaluate apps and why they are
>> given second chance if they improve as Empathy did.
> I am pointing out that empathy at the moment is widely broken, and none
> of the feature it promises are there. I don't think you can install
> ubuntu on a fresh computer and be sure voice calls with empathy will
> work at all. I don't think you can really use empathy for IRC. I don't
> think empathy will imports accounts from pidgin in a reliable way.
> How do I know these things, is because I tried it. When it'll be ready,
> it will be a pleasure to use it. I am not saying distributors should
> "resist" to change.
> V.

But in any case, even more important, I have to unsubscribe from this 
list. Even the above criticism could become a contribution to ubuntu. It 
may e.g. prod developers into looking at those bugs again. And I have 
decided that my contributions to ubuntu should stop.

CC Mark Shuttleworth, because it is clear that no developers want to 
speak about this problem, so the "boss" is the only one entitled.

This is because one thing are design issues that can be discussed, and 
eventually I would understand the reasons for those uncomfortable 
changes, and start convincing MY users that these changes are good; bugs 
can be reported, cooperation can be done in my free time, one other 
thing is to

1) notice that we^H^H^H you are still tricking your users into thinking 
that they google for something, whereas they really "ubuntu+google for 

2) Notice that the solution to the problem would just be to add a link 
in that page to a relevant explanation, and that developers have 
SILENTLY refused to do that.

3) notice that all the persons involved (and it's extremely difficult to 
find someone who will say "yes I am responsible for that page") PROMISED 
that the issues would have been solved

4) notice that Mark Shuttleworth in person said that these issues would 
have been discussed

5) notice that all the above can be safely skipped, since in the end 
nothing changed.

I quitted some time ago, now I make it official; I was not the most 
useful contributor anyways.



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