Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

Martin Owens doctormo at
Tue Nov 11 04:03:53 UTC 2008

> This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development with 
> developers.  Comments like "I was just joking about you having to know 
> anything" make the decision to unsubscribe easy.  I'm seriously considering 
> it myself.

It should remain, developers should remain. Developers are never going
to get away from users who want to bitch, greater layers between the
developers and users just breeds users who resent and don't understand
developers and developers who don't understand (none programmer)user
needs. Very Bad.

So on one side I think that list moderators or peers should be very
prompt in telling the wrong sorts of emails where to go, perhaps with a
standard template which explains the rules and a little checkbox by the

On the other hand, list members should try not to bait the trolls. I've
caught myself being suckered in too, so I know it's not easy. But why
reward the wrong sort of emails with any response other than a boiler
plait 'Your being rude' email?

Regards, Martin

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