making deals with M$

Chandru at
Sun Jun 8 17:01:39 UTC 2008

No Java is not in the same boat as .Net.  There is no open-source version of
.Net released by Microsoft.  .Net as a framework is still a proprietary
product of Microsoft.  They are letting Mono survive only because of their
Embrace, Extend and Extinguish scheme.

Not so with Java.  There is an officially GPLed version of Java out there.
You can be 100% sure that Sun is not going to get you into trouble for using
it.  Java is as open as any other open-source language today.  Not so with
.Net and Mono is just an implementation of an older version of .Net.  Mono
can never compete head-on with .Net as it can never implement latest version
of .Net which Microsoft releases.  They always have to play catch up.  If
FOSS has to succeed it must exceed the capabilities of its proprietary
counter-parts.  A good example for us is in Firefox, not in Mono.

On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Mackenzie Morgan <macoafi at> wrote:
> I'm personally not a fan of Mono's dependence on Microsoft's whims, but
> then Java's in pretty much the same boat with Sun, and it's still the
> language I use the most.
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We choose the brand of our Mobile Phone, Motorbike, Car, Shirt, Shoe, Bread,
etc. Then why not the brand of our OS too?

Pre-loading and forcing Vista on new laptops kills consumers' choice. Fight
for choice of OS just as there is for the Hard Disk capacity in new laptops.
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