You lost a new Ubuntu user

nergar nergar at
Fri Dec 26 05:29:09 UTC 2008

This is getting out of proportion. Ubuntu should NOT ask if it is ok to 
get updates. We are trying to run a "Linux for human beings" distro and 
if we start taking steps in this direction, we might as well ask for 
permission to connect when opening firefox. The last thing we need are 
more dialogs to confuse/annoy users.

Another thing to take into account is, Linux is about CHOICES. If anyone 
feels like a control freak they should be using Arch or Gentoo or any 
other distro that will fit them better.

We have more important things to worry about, like stability. Ubuntu has 
become very unstable lately.

HggdH wrote:
> Le Thursday 25 December 2008 à 22:40 +0200, Dotan Cohen a écrit :
>> 2008/12/25 Manish Sinha < at>:
>>> I again repeat the above line since bandwidth is one of the two main
>>> issues, first being the installer connecting to the internet without
>>> user's consent.
>> Having the network cable plugged in implies consent. If you don't want
>> you computer connecting to a network, then don't plug it in. I have
>> lived in areas of limited and expensive bandwidth, and even for a
>> desktop with the network cable under the desk, it seemed common sense
>> that so long as it was plugged in, something would try to connect.
> Sorry, you are generalising from your own perceptions. The original
> complaint was clearly set against going out into the wild Internet
> without asking first (and, <gasp/>, downloading other/new programmes).
> I agree with it. If I have a full CD with Ubuntu, I do not expect it to
> get into the Internet without telling me first, no matter what.
> If being connected is what it takes to get out, then warn/suggest the
> user to disconnect if no such contact is wanted. But never expect
> *implicit*, *implied*, consents to have been given.
> The fact that something will try to connect if a connection is available
> is the root of the problem. The default should be *NO* connection unless
> explicitly allowed, be it out or in.

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